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NAZIS PIERCE FRENCH LINES ON 62-MILE FRONT; TAKE BRUSSELS, LOUVAIN, MALINES AND NAMUR (5/18/40)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 5/18/40 | George Axelsson, G.H. Archambault, Harold Denny, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 05/18/2010 4:35:36 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: henkster

“Hitler wasn’t the only one who thought the panzers should pause and let the infantry catch up.”

FOG OF WAR...
The heavy tank casualties taken by 3 and 4 Pzd versus the French Cavalry Division during the battles of the 12-14 May are weighing in the High Command’s minds.

They know the French and British have more tanks, and are waiting for them to be committed, which explains Hitler’s concerns about a counter strike on the Southern flank.

What they don’t know is that Allied command and control of the field units is dissolving rapidly, and tank units are being committed piecemeal to plug local emergencies.

Actor Robert Montgomery describes this period pretty well in his book describing his service in the American Ambulance Service in France.


41 posted on 05/18/2010 10:03:05 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: tcrlaf
Actor Robert Montgomery, serving with the American Ambulance Service, somewhere in France, 1940
42 posted on 05/18/2010 10:16:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: CougarGA7

You’re right, it went beyond short. However, in cases like these it gets a little complicated; SOMEONE has to be punished, but in the middle of a major war you can’t afford to punish your best people.


43 posted on 05/18/2010 10:21:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: abb
Your point about how loss of the BEF would have been a tremendous blow to British morale is interesting. Churchill had just taken over and the opposition would have made hay with such a loss.

As it was, Churchill was able to spin Dunkirk into a ‘victory’ and used it as a rallying point.


While Churchill was able to use the escape of British Army at Dunkirk as a rallying point, you appear to misunderstand the political situation in the UK at the time. There effectively was no opposition to Churchill and his government.

Churchill had just come to power as the Prime Minister of a National Unity Government, a coalition of the five largest parties in Parliament - Conservative, Labour, National Labour, Liberal, and National Liberal. This coalition controlled all but a few of the members of Parliament. Each party negotiated for and received seats in the cabinet, and therefore any criticism of the Churchill Government was muted by the fact that all of the major politicians of the time had a seat in the cabinet. This continued until July, 1945. When the war in Europe was over, the National Unity Government was ended, and long-delayed parliamentary elections were held, which the Labour Party won.

44 posted on 05/18/2010 11:15:26 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: tcrlaf

You bring up a very good point; the “fog of war” works both ways. At this point in the campaign, the French don’t really know where the Germans are, and the pace of the battle is beyond their control. As a result, their command and control has completely broken down. Units assembling for attack or defense are vanishing, with only a few dazed survivors escaping. (Sounds almost like a sci-fi disaster movie).

But I hadn’t looked at it from the German perspective before. The division commanders like Rommel have a pretty good idea where their troops are. The Corps commanders like Guderian have a general idea where their troops are, but are relying on the divisional commanders. The Gruppe commanders like Kleist and Hoth are probably less sure of the exact locations of their own forces. By the time you get to the level of Hitler or Halder, the French may know better where the panzers are than the “highest green table.”

In this highly fluid situation, at the highest level of command the Germans probably have little idea where the French are. All they know is that they are sweeping the debris of the “world’s finest army” before them. There has got to be some reservations on their part that surely it can’t be this easy.


45 posted on 05/18/2010 11:17:33 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster; PzLdr; BroJoeK
One final item for today from The Blitzkrieg Legend. Today the Maginot Line was attacked though only on the periphery. The position hit was designated Fort No. 505 on the left flank of the line. What ensued was an example of the dangers of being over-entrenched and was a tragedy for the French soldiers occupying that position.

Fort No. 505

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46 posted on 05/18/2010 5:42:49 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (In order to dream of the future, we need to remember the past. - Bartov)
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To: Vermont Lt
"Once again, reference made to the concentration of ships at Pearl."

Where? I looked, couldn't find it... ?

47 posted on 05/19/2010 1:13:12 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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