Posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There is renewed alarm about the possibility of an EMP attack – electromagnetic pulse – on the United States because of Iran's work on a multi-stage Space Launch Vehicle, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.
And experts forecast if such an attack were a success, it effectively could throw the U.S. back into an age of agriculture.
"Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we can't support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity," said Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy. "And that is exactly what I believe the Iranians are working towards."
A recent launch of an SLV by Iran has sparked renewed concern of an attack that could send an electromagnetic pulse powerful enough to wipe out computer controls for systems on which society has come to rely, officials say.
As the G2 Bulletin reported last week, Ronald Burgess, director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, revealed that Iran successfully launched a multi-stage SLV, the Simorgh. The device ultimately could be equipped with a nuclear bomb, which the U.S. intelligence community assesses Iran is developing.
Officials also report Iran has been testing detonation of its nuclear-capable missiles by remote control while still in high-altitude flight...
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Acidic produce such as tomatoes can be safely home canned in a solar oven.
Once people start staving, the population will drop quickly. I hope I'm wrong, I don't want to be right. I'd rather not find out whether I'm right or not.
ditto!
That goes for desert dwellers also, many millions of Americans live in deserts, many miles from an actual water source of any kind, and without any expectations of usable rainfall.
Coastal freepers such as in San Diego can always pull water out of the ocean and use a homemade solar still to make drinking water.
When I lived on the ocean, I actually walked down and scooped a five gallon bucket of sea water and distilled (part of) it into fresh, just to test my resources.
Endless water, temperature extremes limited to ranges of 45 to 85 degrees, endless sunshine for solar cooking and solar distilling, and free, uninterrupted beach recreation made San Diego coastal living a survivalist dream.
When I was on the water with my 18 months worth of food and alcohol, my solar oven to cook my beans and wheat, I felt like life would be the same for me for the first 18 months of an emergency as I suntanned in the 70 degree climate and fished with my new girlfriends.
The only thing that I was worried about was how high the state's "survivor tax" would be.
As for as getting gas from a gas station without power? A portable generator and a large tank.:)
Dammit, snorted my morning tea all over my shirt...
I live through Katrina in Jackson, MS. One week of no electricity, water, gas, or air conditioning.
It was a struggle, and if it lasted longer than a week, it might become unbearable.
“I think if an EMP of that size were detonated anywhere on the planet the ripple effect would more than likely take out the idiots who set it off also.”
We have witnessed just how much the Iranian authority cares about its people.
Get a grip.
First, suburbanites actually can grow a lot of their own food. It’s called a “garden” and we have seen a recent trend back to backyard gardening.
Second, a lot of suburbanites originally came from small towns and rural areas. After a couple of days with no news, no power, and no help arriving, many will start heading towards the rural areas knowing that they can get food and shelter there.
Small farm towns, villages and hamlets can and will take people in who will help them with the fields and can provide skills that the community needs.
Will millions die? Absolutely. 50%? That’s a very real likelyhood. 90%? Not a chance.
“A large segment of our society lacks any ability to take care of itself.”
At least half the US population is severely mentally disabled and cannot live without unlimited government assistance.
About five years ago a large transformer supplying Phoenix cooked itself (inconveniently in the middle of the summer).
The nearest one was in Oregon, if I recall correctly, and had to be shipped to LA by barge and then transported by special heavy-lift truck to Phoenix, at about 5 MPH.
Overall, the process took several weeks.
Off topic, but who is your cell provider? all the majors have “femtocells” now, devices that plug into your router and broadcast like a mini cell tower. On Verizon? Google Verizon wireless network extender. Best thing I’ve ever bought, before they built a tower.
Women, children and minorities will, of course, be hardest hit.
I agree with everything you say. The challenge is scale. Despite their best efforts, they simply don’t have enough STUFF to serve a city. The unserved would get unruly.
I would place my bets with our GIs myself.
Then you need to move to somewhere that is bearable. We're out in the country with a fresh water supply, a solar oven, and we didn't install A/C here in the house I grew up in until about 10 years ago.
Everybody who wants to know more about EMP and what’s “likely” to happen in America as a result, should read -
http://www.onesecondafter.com/index.html
It lines up closely with what the DoD had been telling us (when I was USAF/AD) for years. 90% is probably pretty close to being correct.
While not a survivalist, I just want to bring you back to what you said. Long wires.
The greatest damage of EMP is not so much the loss of discrete devices, it’s the damage to the power grid by virtue of its long lines.
Our society REQUIRES electricity. Without it, society as we know it dies quickly.
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