Posted on 05/01/2010 8:30:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono
Dogs described as "pit bulls" attacked two people recently, one an 11-year-old girl ("Passer-by helps teen attacked by dog in Toledo," April 16; "•'Pit bull' shot after attacking girl, officer," April 19). Not to diminish the seriousness of these attacks, but blame the owners.
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the Dobie was the only to have had protection training...from Hoytt...I know they get bummed for too many dogs but my experience twice was exceptional
but their companion-guard class dogs are not cheap with certification...about a 6.5 on security training on a 1-10 scale...they offer 10s but those are best for military bases and missile silos etc
most folks think ABDs do not need training just for the home..I'm just not used to his unwary demeanor
I’ve been swimming in their ignorance for a very long a time and am well aware of the depth of it.
“my last Dobie....never rolled over...ever..10 years.”
Euro or American lines?
HUGE psychological difference between the 2.
I greatly prefer the Euros.
Never had one.......with my Rotts, I am the dominant alpha. My grandfather had a ABD.....it was a great pup....Max was his name !
Sorry I can’t help on your perception of slow development. Is your observation based on your other breeds or this breed speed alone WD ?
Excellent point. Most likely is the owner claiming their dog has never shown signs of aggression. I’ve known a few to do that.
What about people who merely want one and don't need one?
Besides extensive reading, I don’t have any experience American Bulldogs, but my impression of them is more of a ‘hard’ dog than a ‘sharp’ dog. Better suited to dealing with an established threat than at detecting it, if that makes sense.
He snores crazy loud!
I have recently read an article on the name change because of the AKC. They changed the name to get the dog listed. Same dog, different name...but some that own AST won’t admit that its the same dog....
We have all seen pictuess of people that hug tigers and bears, do whats your point?
Opps should have written pictures not (pictuess)
time to lay off the booze....miss spelled your name and had to correct that also...
Now that is down right cruel......(did I spell it right?)
The name was changed, and they have been bred for the show ring since 1936...It took less than five years for the AKC to ruin the Border Collie, but the AmStaff somehow continues to harbor evil instincts?
Me too, I was brought up in Detroit....:O)
Come on, give me an answer; I’m curious to hear what you think about it. Do you consider AmStaffs to be as unstable as you consider pit bulls, even though the AKC Border Collies, after only a few years of show breeding, are worlds apart from the field dogs?
my first experience with ABD...not sure yet...they are slow to mature
I think pit and pit crosses are generally not a stable dog...they can go off on a whim.
My neighbor was bitten in the stomach by a neighbors Sheltie (hateful little critter and off leash) if it had been a pit or cross, she would have been more seriously injured, of that I have no doubt. She was only 5 ft tall and became terrified of those shelties...Once one went after my son (over 6 foot and not a skinny minny) he waited for the dog to get close enough and drop kicked it back into its middle lawn.
Pits aren't the only dogs that bite, but theirs are more fatal or require more surgery than most other dogs...Any dog not leased has potential for aggression, with pits I think the instinct for aggression is closer to the surface. It is what they were originally bred for, fighting and hanging on.
On the farm had a neighbor get a border collie, she never had to train it, by instinct it herds the chickens into the coop every night and all she does is close the door...What is bred into a dog shows up in the dog. Some dogs are by breeding and instinct more dangerous than others...
I put pit and pit crosses, also AST in that category, they aren't the only ones, but they and rottys are the biggest percentage of serious mauling and death...
But at least a Rotty is a beautifully configured dog..You want my honest opinion, a pit to me has nothing beautiful about it...as in all things, I have my opinion and you have yours...never the twain shall meet....:O)
most folks think they don’t need protection training and while not as sharp as say Dobies or Sheps
they are much more immune to pain or stress distractions and do not fold up
which makes them sought after guards for security and cadaver and rescue dogs in brutal conditions
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