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1 posted on 04/28/2010 9:07:35 AM PDT by patriotgal1787
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Instead of passing a law to ignore the American public, how about passing a law releasing a copy of the certificate? In fact, it doesn’t even have to be an all encompassing law, just a release of responsibility to the records department.


2 posted on 04/28/2010 9:09:25 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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Obstruction of justice.


3 posted on 04/28/2010 9:12:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States Â… shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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This would mean nothing if each of the other 49 states made submission of a valid birth certificate (not a COLB) a requirement to qualify for that state’s presidential ballot. It is to our eternal regret that this wasn’t in place prior to 2008.


4 posted on 04/28/2010 9:12:42 AM PDT by Emile ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- A. Huxley)
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NBC Ping


5 posted on 04/28/2010 9:13:05 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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It’s public records. Failing to comply with these requests for one particular person for the reason of it being a costly burden doesn’t suffice.

Charge a fee for it. Staff an office full of clerks to process the request. Heck, maybe turn a profit on the volume.

OR... Maybe all these requests flooding in suggests a lot of Americans have some serious doubts about mr. soetero.


6 posted on 04/28/2010 9:13:47 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Home Depot should begin stocking up on pitchforks and torches.)
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to legally ignore each month's dozens of repeated requests by persons or organizations seeking to see the infant Obama's actual birth certificate.

Haven't they been doing this for two years now?

ML/NJ

7 posted on 04/28/2010 9:15:08 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Where does the “Freedom of Information Act” figure into this?


8 posted on 04/28/2010 9:15:21 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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Sooooooooo much effort by so many to hide one piece of paper.


9 posted on 04/28/2010 9:16:29 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for If the Conservatives had.....except not doing it sooner!)
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Hawaii is a mess and has been for many years. The locals have been wanted to secede from the US and become a Country. These as@ just don't get it that if it was not for the US to build their State they would still be throw virgins in the volcano.
10 posted on 04/28/2010 9:16:35 AM PDT by Logical me
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Link?


12 posted on 04/28/2010 9:18:10 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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I'm real disappointed in Hawaii.

The next time I need a few days in an Island Paradise, I think I'll pick Tahiti or someplace like that...Hawaii has become way too commercialized anyway...at least on Oahu.

I'm wondering if there is language in this law to prevent any court from getting the document via subpoena? Anyone know? Or does a subpoena override everything?
15 posted on 04/28/2010 9:22:40 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing up against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future will belong to the tyrants.)
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Hawaii keeps officially validating that they have Barry’s original and publicly unseen birth certificate sealed.
And yet, the media and the great uninformed like O’Reilly and FOX reporters keep reporting that Barry’s birth certificate has been posted on line.
Now, they are passing a law which allows them to ignore
“ vexatious requestors “ who bother them with requests for more info on the birth certificate.
That they tell us they have.
Imagine the state of Connecticut doing this with George W. Bush’s birth certificate
and other “ original vital records.”
The outcry from the media and the Democrats would be deafening.


16 posted on 04/28/2010 9:24:41 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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Hawaii Legislature


19 posted on 04/28/2010 9:29:35 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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I have to produce my valid birth certificate for so many things in my life. It’s the least the states should require - of ALL candidates, not just one specific one - to get listed on the ballot. Every state should pass this measure in time for the 2010 midterms. How can anyone justify voting against it?


21 posted on 04/28/2010 9:30:33 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (If you believe in manmade global warming, you lack the gift of reason.)
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Better know the truth before you sign it (though I believe he IS a citizen... and a douchebag)


22 posted on 04/28/2010 9:32:40 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE ARE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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Why are DEMS continuing to fuel the BIRTHER movement? Do they have something to gain here?


23 posted on 04/28/2010 9:34:17 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE ARE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


24 posted on 04/28/2010 9:34:47 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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Forget about the Birth Certificate. BHO's II Form SS-5, Application for Social Security Number will state whether or not he is a U.S. citizen or a legal alien authorized to work in the U.S.

It will also indicate whether he used his birth certificate or his immigration papers to prove identity.

HINT: BHO's II authorized refugee relocation organization dealt with BHO's II SSN application, that's why the application has a Connecticut return address instead of a Hawaii return address.
28 posted on 04/28/2010 9:39:14 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (My UPS driver should try deodorant and breath mints.)
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Hawaii was/is definatly “not ready for Prime Time”! Shoulda left it as a territory. Ike you screwed up on this one.


29 posted on 04/28/2010 9:43:20 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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This bill wouldn’t stand up to a first amendment challenge. The premise behind the bill is faulty anyway about vexatious requestors. Many of the repeat requests are because the DOH plays dumb and ASKS requestors to restate their requests. Second, these aren’t repeat requests for the same information. We can tell this because the DOH posted an FAQ page about Obama with five different categories of information posted to address the different types of questions they get from the so-called vexatious requestors.

It includes clarifcations on disclosure laws; the difference between a birth certificate, certificate of live birth and certification of live birth; index data; past statements made by the directorbabe; records pertaining to the database; and rules and regulations within the department including:

Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 (Vital Records Regulations and Records)
Public Health Regulations Chapter 8A (Delayed Birth Registration)
Public Health Regulations Chapter 8B (Vital Statistics Regulations and Records)
Hawaii Administrative Rules, Title 11 Department of Health Chapter 120 (Foreign Born Persons Adopted in Hawaii)
Hawaii Administrative Rules, Title 11 Department of Health Chapter 123 (Names of Natural Parents in Birth Certificate of Adopted Person)

Why is it simpler to change the law over requests dealing with one person when full disclosure (legal under state law) would resolve the issue?? Why does Obama leave the HI DOH hanging out to dry when he can give them permission to provide full disclosure of his birth records??


34 posted on 04/28/2010 3:30:46 PM PDT by edge919
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