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Replacing The Missing F-35s
Strategy Page ^ | April 2, 2010

Posted on 04/03/2010 6:23:16 AM PDT by myknowledge

Faced with delays in the F-35 program, and the aging of its F-16 and F-15 fleet, the U.S. Air Force will refurbish older aircraft, to keep them going until the F-35s show up. The F-35 delays have been growing over the last few years, and the air force was already developing a refurbishment program for its F-15 fighters, most of which are over 20 years old. This will extend their useful life from 8,000 flight hours, to 12,000 hours.

The F-16C, which was originally designed for a service life of 4,000 hours in the air, took advantage of advances in engineering, materials and maintenance techniques to extend that to over 8,000 hours. The air force could have bought new F-16s and F-15s to avert the shortage. But that's 5-10 times more expensive than refurbishing existing aircraft.

Aging combat aircraft are a worldwide problem. A year ago, the Chinese Air Force began retiring its first Su-27 fighters, or at least the airframes. These aircraft were bought in the early 1990s, and 24 of them had reached their service life of 5,000 flight hours. "Service life" is a limitation all aircraft have, although it can often be extended. In addition to the F-16 and F-15 extension programs, the U.S. A-10 also had its service life extended from 8,000 to 28,000 hours. Same deal with the B-52, which had its useful life more than doubled, via several refurbishments, to 28,000 hours. Engines, electronics and other components have different service lives. But the retired Chinese Su-27s were stripped of most components, for reuse as spare parts.

Russian warplanes have, historically, had short service lives. This includes all components, especially engines. The MiG-29 was designed to last only 2,500 hours in the air. A refurbishment program has since been developed to extend that to 4,000 hours. The MiG-29 was a watershed design for the Russians in the 1970s, who were beginning to build more sturdy aircraft on the Western model. Thus the Su-27s, which were designed a few years after the MiG-29, had the longer, for Russian aircraft, service life of 5,000 hours. Before that, most Russian aircraft were only good for 2-3,000 flight hours.

The Chinese Su-27s, which normally have two pilots assigned (a common practice worldwide) apparently allowed each pilot to get 120-130 hours a year in the air. That's less than Western pilots get, but twice what pilots used to get in communist countries. That's because these nations had Russian aircraft that would be quickly worn out if you allowed the pilots to fly them as much as their Western counterparts. But the Russians saw the error of their ways before the end of the Cold War, but not in time to re-equip their air force with pilots trained to a Western standard.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f15; f16; f35; usairforce
Looks like the USAF is gonna have to strain out more flying hours from the legacy F-15s and F-16s.

The 4th Gen high/low mix of fighters have served the USAF well for over 30 years.

1 posted on 04/03/2010 6:23:16 AM PDT by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Obama and his socialists won’t need an air force. Wait till they come out with the “peace dividend” garbage they always do and scrap the military to use the money on social programs.


2 posted on 04/03/2010 6:57:19 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

Given the crushing and increasing burden of our entitlement programs, we will be forced to choose between guns and butter just like the Europeans. And butter always wins out.


3 posted on 04/03/2010 7:02:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: myknowledge

What is so great about the F-35 that it is replacing the F-22?


5 posted on 04/03/2010 7:30:54 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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What is so great about the F-35 that it is replacing the F-22?

The 35 does not replace the 22,they are two different aircraft.

You should google a bit.

6 posted on 04/03/2010 7:34:07 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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The F-35 is intended to form the low part of the 5th Gen high/low mix (the F-22 forming the high part).

I suggest you bookmark the Air Power Australia website on your browser for future reference.

7 posted on 04/03/2010 7:46:05 AM PDT by myknowledge (B.H. Obama's just a frontman. A frontman for who? The globalist elite, stupid!)
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To: Kakaze
more F-22s would solve the problem. But thanks to the kenyan that is not an option.
8 posted on 04/03/2010 8:08:37 AM PDT by hwj_chim
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To: Kakaze

Understood. We don’t have enough F-22s but we stopped buying and building them, as I understand it, to purchase an F-35 that is over budget and cannot currently be built. So the question I was asking was why? What is so vital about the F-35? Perhaps it is the aging air frames on the F-15s, F-18s et.al. I am not an airdale so I posed the question.


9 posted on 04/03/2010 8:22:38 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: myknowledge

Thanks man. I get it. The idea is to weaken us. Should have known.


10 posted on 04/03/2010 8:25:10 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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