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'Hurt Locker' producer barred from Oscars
Yahoo! via AP ^ | 2 Mar 10

Posted on 03/02/2010 6:29:30 PM PST by shove_it

LOS ANGELES - A producer of the war story "The Hurt Locker" will not be allowed to attend Sunday's Academy Awards because of e-mails he sent urging academy members to vote for his movie, Oscar overseers said Tuesday.

But Nicolas Chartier will receive an Oscar at a later date if "The Hurt Locker" wins best picture.

The executive committee of the producers branch of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences imposed the penalty on Chartier, who violated Oscar rules that prohibit mailings promoting a film and disparaging another. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at oscars.movies.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hollywood; hurtlocker; oscars
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To: shove_it

The Oscars, Grammys, and Emmys have all been political awards for years.


21 posted on 03/03/2010 6:50:55 AM PST by RabidBartender (Rob Scaaf for Missouri State Senate http://schaafforsenate.com/)
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To: 444Flyer
As opposed to those prime examples of realism starring John Wayne?
22 posted on 03/03/2010 6:55:08 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: rangerwife

I’ve heard excellent things about Brothers at War too. It’s the documentary produced by Gary Sinese.

http://www.brothersatwarmovie.com/


23 posted on 03/03/2010 7:07:34 AM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: RabidBartender

What about the Best Picture winners has been political?


24 posted on 03/03/2010 7:45:34 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Grrrr....I typed out a response, and then lost my internet connection and lost it. I think we’ve posted to each other on this in the past, and I know you follow these very closely. And I do take your views on movies and the awards industry seriously, although I disagree with some of them.

Short version - Today, I believe nominations are handed out to mediocre films if the actors and actresses are on the right side of the political spectrum, or if the movie material spits in the face of traditional, conservative, and Christian values. If Sean Penn or George Clooney release a home video, odds are good they get nominated for Best Actor.

There are movies I have liked that have been nominated and won (Gladiator, Braveheart, Titanic). However, movies that I find insulting have won more. Issue-oriented movies definitely have been nominated more. Since you wish to limit the scope to only Best Picture Winners:

If Clint Eastwood doesn’t help kill the female boxer, I don’t believe Million Dollar Baby is nominated, let alone wins.

American Beauty - hahaha.

Crash - I’m making this up on the spot, but I may be right. The 99 uses of the word “F***” in this movie is probably more than the Best Picture winners from 1927 to 1960 combined.


25 posted on 03/03/2010 10:12:43 AM PST by RabidBartender (Rob Scaaf for Missouri State Senate http://schaafforsenate.com/)
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To: kempster; 444Flyer; RaceBannon
What was wrong with this movie? (I haven't seen it yet, and am just asking)

I remember some FReepers here said it was a great movie... others say it's not accurate. Which is it?

26 posted on 03/03/2010 10:15:16 AM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: nutmeg

the hero is a psycho, over motivated, doing reckless acts and intentionally placing his men in dangerous positions that would not even begin to happen in real life

Since there are so many genuine combat vets now, the desire for accuracy is greater

the EOD guys think it is hilarious, it is supposed to have some secret phrases and incidents that are either jokes or real events that prove how stoopid some people are

wait for AMC is basically what I heard about this movie


27 posted on 03/03/2010 10:26:18 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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To: 444Flyer
That's ridiculous. Actual members of the bomb unit were technical advisors on the movie and the bomb guys, who went to screenings for their opinions, loved it. It hardly shows them in a "bad light". Exactly the opposite. You obviously haven't seen it and prefer to accept the word of some disgruntled "veteran" the Washington Post dug up.

It sat on a shelf, with no distributor for over a year precisely because it was such a tribute to these amazing men and didn't trash the war, the soldiers or Bush.

28 posted on 03/03/2010 10:33:58 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: RaceBannon

If you haven’t seen it, your opinion is worthless. The hero is hardly “psycho”. Its just an exaggerated character like in every movie. I put off seeing it because I didn’t believe the business could produce a war movie that was honest or showed the soldiers to be the heroes they are. I was wrong. I’ve watched the Academy screener five times and it takes my breath away every time.


29 posted on 03/03/2010 10:41:28 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: RaceBannon; nutmeg
Thanks Race. My personal opinion, I know that Hollywood is paid to ‘entertain’ but they go out of line when they take liberty by portraying our guys this way. There is enough danger in combat that they don't have to hype it up with fictional reckless lead characters doing dumba$$ things.
30 posted on 03/03/2010 10:41:32 AM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: shove_it

He should have spent a million advertising in Variety and the LA Times like every one else; then his ethics would be pure.


31 posted on 03/03/2010 10:42:52 AM PST by votemout
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To: Deb
“That's ridiculous. Actual members of the bomb unit were technical advisers on the movie and the bomb guys, who went to screenings for their opinions, loved it. It hardly shows them in a “bad light”. Exactly the opposite. You obviously haven't seen it and prefer to accept the word of some disgruntled “veteran” the Washington Post dug up.”

That guy's opinion is questionable at best after reading about him. I stated that in a post upthread.

Admittedly, I haven't seen it, but upon seeing the story plot line and differing opinions, decided not to spend the hard earned money to watch it. There are very good reasons not to trust Hollywood but it doesn't mean the film doesn't have any redeeming messages or points aside from some stupid plot decisions (ie: the hoodie incident). I tend towards a black or white approach, the lead/good guy doesn't compromise his integrity or that of his men for entertainment purposes. Throwing in silly plot lines can make a film lose its believability fast and distract from what could be a truly great film for posterity. That's just MHO. We all tend to view films through our own personal biases, and admittedly I have many.

All that being said, I'm taking your word on it and respect your opinion on the film.

32 posted on 03/03/2010 11:17:07 AM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: nutmeg

The movie itself was OK. It was like a documentary and it had flashbacks and it took a while to figure out what was going on. Personally, I didn’t think Academy Award when I was watching it. It seemed real until I heard soldiers who perform those missions say it wasn’t.


33 posted on 03/03/2010 11:26:47 AM PST by kempster
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To: 444Flyer

I thought everything you did and refused to see it. I’m glad I decided to watch it. I was wrong. While I’m sure so soldier would leave the base to search for someone like our hero, that had nothing to do with the mission or the main story. I forgave it because I hadn’t seen soldiers treated as actual heroes by Hollywood since...well, ever.


34 posted on 03/03/2010 11:27:11 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: RabidBartender
‘American Beauty’ was an exception. But ‘Crash’ was about how racism is widespread and not just limited to White people. That's a pretty rare message these days. I didn't like it myself but for different reasons. MDB was about one person's moral choice and his dealing with the consequences going forward. Simple minded yes but I don't think it was any apologia for Euthanasia.
35 posted on 03/03/2010 11:33:30 AM PST by Borges
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To: Deb

“...I forgave it because I hadn’t seen soldiers treated as actual heroes by Hollywood since...well, ever.”

*sigh* Totally agree. Really sad and a loss for Hollywood. (Though I hear that “Dear John” does a good job of demonstrating the commitment and the hard work of our soldiers.)

The storytellers are missing out on the heart of our troops and a feeling that runs deep inside of every true American’s heart. The selfless sacrifice and brotherhood of our troops which can go beyond comprehension, explanation or understanding. Hollywood is bound to screw that up, which is probably why they are so bad at portraying it.:)

It’s probably a very good thing that the film is causing discussion about the way our troops are portrayed. For future films as well as this one.

Now that it is Oscar time the disecting is naturally out there.

This guy loved it:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mlong/2009/07/15/review-the-hurt-locker-3/

This guy, not so much:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/07/02/review-the-hurt-locker-2/

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/03/02/mistrust-added-scene-of-detainee-abuse-caused-defense-dept-to-pull-hurt-locker-support/


36 posted on 03/03/2010 11:58:51 AM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: 444Flyer

I have to say that the constant depiction of soldiers as either dead victims, blood-thirsty monsters or noble amputees had me totally demoralized and so I’m happy to report (spoiler alert!) not one of the main characters is killed, therefore, as far as I’m concerned, “The Hurt Locker” is a chick flick. Maybe that’s why I liked it. The people they spend two hours making you care about, actually survive.


37 posted on 03/03/2010 12:15:52 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Well, if you dont know me, then your opinion of me is worthless, too.

Feel better now?


38 posted on 03/03/2010 1:28:24 PM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

Sorta.


39 posted on 03/03/2010 1:29:16 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

And by the way, dub, I was asked what I was told about it and I answered.

If you dont like what I was told, go form your own opinion.


40 posted on 03/03/2010 1:30:07 PM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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