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Renewed Battle for the Falkland Islands Suits the Embattled British, Argentine Leaders, and Others
OilPrice.com ^ | 01/03/2010 | ISSA

Posted on 03/01/2010 3:29:13 PM PST by Faketan

The artificially-engendered revival of the dispute, which began in February 2010 between Argentina and the United Kingdom over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic, has been portrayed as a posturing by embattled Argentine Pres. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, taking advantage of both the start of exploratory oil and gas drilling by British company Desire Petroleum in the Falklands waters, and the talks by Latin American and Caribbean leaders of the Rio Group in the Mexican resort of Playa del Carmen, beginning on February 22, 2010. But the crisis may well play into the political posturing of equally embattled United Kingdom Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who faces a general election by June 2010 at the latest.

Britain’s presently governing Labour Party is as conscious — almost superstitiously so — of the fact that the 1982 Falklands War with Argentina revived the flagging fortunes of incumbent Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, just as the US Democratic Party is fixated on the belief that Democratic Pres. Lyndon Johnson failed to win a second term in office because of being embroiled in the Vietnam War. As a result, the British Labour Party is unlikely to attempt to quell the dispute in the short term between the UK and Argentina, even though it plays strongly into the hands of Pres. Fernández de Kirchner. Full article at: Falkland Islands Conflict


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: argentina; british; milirary; war

1 posted on 03/01/2010 3:29:14 PM PST by Faketan
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To: Faketan

I wish Maggie and Ronnie were still with us.

LLS


2 posted on 03/01/2010 3:35:31 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Faketan

I dare you to try and say “Falkland Islands” with a New Jersey accent ...


3 posted on 03/01/2010 3:36:41 PM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Faketan

I hope the Brits are ready to defend it. Do they have anti-aircraft batteries and naval assets down there?

do we? Not that Obama would use them.


4 posted on 03/01/2010 3:42:34 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: GeronL
I hope the Brits are ready to defend it. Do they have anti-aircraft batteries and naval assets down there?

There have been many changes since the Falkland War, and none of them bode well for the Britons inhabiting the islands. Not only are the British unwilling (largely) to defend the claim again, due to the factor of their being heavily intertwined in the EU, they may well be politically unable to do so, even if they were willing. I suspect, that in the end, Britain will cede the islands to Argentina...

the infowarrior

5 posted on 03/01/2010 4:02:27 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

That would be pathetic. That would be the official death of England.


6 posted on 03/01/2010 4:21:47 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: LibLieSlayer

Mrs. Thatcher still is.


7 posted on 03/01/2010 4:24:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: GeronL
That would be pathetic. That would be the official death of England.

I do not, cannot disagree, but the reality is that what I forsee as the end result will be the end result...

the infowarrior

8 posted on 03/01/2010 4:33:40 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I know... but I meant for them to still be in charge and carrying on with the world’s baddest tag team.

LLS


9 posted on 03/01/2010 4:42:00 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: infowarrior

I very much doubt England will give up the Falkland Islands - they actually have more right over the land than Argentina. This is all Geopolitical horesplay - but if it did come down to it - Britain are in a position to defend the Islands - Argentina’s ragtag army would be completely overwhelmed. Professional fighting force vs other - would be very quick, brutal and over. Hopefully it won’t come to that


10 posted on 03/01/2010 6:03:51 PM PST by Faketan
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To: Faketan
I very much doubt England will give up the Falkland Islands - they actually have more right over the land than Argentina. This is all Geopolitical horesplay - but if it did come down to it - Britain are in a position to defend the Islands - Argentina’s ragtag army would be completely overwhelmed. Professional fighting force vs other - would be very quick, brutal and over. Hopefully it won’t come to that

This is not going to be a replay of 25 years ago. While it is certainly true that the military capabilities of Britain vs Argentina haven't changed much in the last quarter century, the political landscape certainly has. There are several factors which I feel you are not taking into consideration here, which I have, when I made my assessment.

Firstly, the British Treasury is in no better shape than our own, awash in a sea of red ink. While this was true to some extent even back then, it is doubly more so now. Secondly, PM Thatcher did not have nearly as large, and certainly nowhere near as restive, a minority population of non-native Britons as exists today. The more radical elements of this population could certainly stymie any proposed military action should they choose to do so, and I have ample reason to believe they would. That's just "the home front", now, let's move on.

Twenty five + years ago, the EU was more or less still just a pipe dream. Today, it's more of a reality. The B.O.O.B.s (Beaureaucratic Officials Of Brussels) would certainly be out in full force to forestall any unilateral action by Britain, in favor of a negotiated, permanent settlement. The B.O.O.B.s have no loyalty to the British inhabitants of the islands, and would sacrifice them in a heartbeat, to ensure the primacy of the B.O.O.B.s and the EU as a whole.

Now, when Britain defended the islands then, they had to cross the Atlantic to do so, a very long supply chain. They were able to do so because of the relationship between the administrations of PM Thatcher, and President Reagan. While to US officially took no side in the dispute, the hands-off approach actually ensured that Britain would prevail. Would *you* count on an Obama Administration to do the same? I wouldn't!

I look carefully at all these factors, and come to the conclusion that Britain will be pressured to the bargaining table by both Brussels, *and* Washington, to cede the islands to Argentina, with both of those polities "sweetening the pot" to assuage British honor. I'm reasonably certain that the Argentines also see all this, which is why they are pressing now...

the infowarrior

11 posted on 03/02/2010 2:10:45 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

Britain is not about to give up their chance to get the oil located just off the Falklands. I don’t think they give a hoot about BOOBs.


12 posted on 03/02/2010 2:27:02 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: infowarrior

Actually Britain has some nice new shiny military stuff to play with since the last time. Cruise missiles, Typhoons based on the Islands, better protected and newer Navy vessels. The biggest factor now is that Britain has a military garrison on the Islands not just 40 marine commandos like the last time.


13 posted on 03/02/2010 2:59:19 AM PST by MadMitch
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To: GeronL

Yes and Yes.


14 posted on 03/04/2010 1:01:56 AM PST by Vanders9
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