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Should Have, Could Have: What Parents Regret About High School
EducationWeek ^ | February 23, 2010 | Robert L. Hampel

Posted on 02/26/2010 9:42:41 AM PST by Sopater

Each semester, my undergraduate history-of-education students ask their parents 10 questions about their time in high school. The interviews usually confirm what we discuss in class—the impact of protests in the late 1960s, the rise of special education, more female sports, and contrasts between rural and urban, Catholic and public schools.

But the replies to one question have surprised me: “If you could travel back in time, what would you change—in your own behavior or in the school itself—to make your high school experience better?”

Rather than fault their schools, most parents criticize themselves. Of the 178 respondents since 2007, 110 focused on their own behavior. Only 23 dwelt on the high school. Thirty-three others revisited both school and self. “Nothing” was the answer from eight, and four felt out of place because of acceleration or relocation.

Looking back, high school was a combination of studying, socializing, and joining. Nearly all of the 143 parents who would change their younger selves made comments in one or more of these three areas:

• Study harder. This was the point raised most often. Sixty respondents wished they had been more diligent. They spoke in general terms of more time and effort—trying harder—rather than describing particular study strategies they would have used. Eleven of the 60 regretted their choice of courses: They should have taken more college-prep or honors classes. Only six said they should have eased up, had more fun, and cared less about grades.

• Friends. There were 51 remarks on this subject, with 28 respondents recalling how shy and isolated they felt. If they could relive this time, they would be more outgoing, make new friends, or date more often. In contrast, nine said they were too obsessed with popularity, ignoring or teasing people they should have treated decently.

• Extracurriculars. Of the 44 comments, only two parents said they had done too much. Everyone else said they would either get involved more or stay involved. Many different sports and clubs were recalled as enjoyable experiences.

What could the school have done differently? Smaller classes, higher expectations, and different courses were recurring suggestions, but none was as common as the wish (from 12 parents) that guidance counselors had been more helpful. They either were not accessible or they were pessimistic. Even so, 143 of the 178 parents took personal responsibility for their disappointments and shortcomings, rather than blaming the teachers, administrators, or curriculum.

If these parents represent the opinion of middle-class America, then self-reliance has clearly not gone out of style. Will and stamina, making better decisions and sticking with them, and using the array of available opportunities wisely: Those are the lessons learned from high school by Americans now in their 40s and 50s.

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What are the implications of these responses? First, that grassroots dissatisfaction with high schools may be less acute than policymakers’. Motivation and perseverance come from within, these parents seem to be saying, even if rules and regulations provide a system of incentives and penalties. Many know from experience that change begins when a student decides to push a bit more.

The second implication is that current school improvement initiatives may be too narrow. The federal Race to the Top competition and its reform counterparts overlook extracurriculars and friends. Education takes place in classrooms and depends on teachers and textbooks, many reformers assume. What young people learn from each other and from their coaches and advisers seems irrelevant to folks like U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. Isn’t life after the final bell the students’ own time? How can educators intrude on socializing and playing, when they already dominate seven hours of each weekday? Don’t we want engineers who know calculus rather than volleyball and Facebook?

Those objections miss the basic point my students’ parents expressed. These adults wish they had been more engaged across the board—in academics, after school, and with other people. They regret holding back much more than jumping in. If these parents came to my class, I’d begin my discussion of their interviews by showing them the carpe diem scene in the film “Dead Poets Society,” in which the teacher played by Robin Williams exhorts his prep school students to seize the day.

Schools teach rules of engagement. Either overtly or covertly, they tell students whether or not participation matters. Can Fred pass without talking in class as Mr. Smith lectures day after day? Does a chemistry lab require Linda, Yvonne, and Jose to work together? Are intramurals available to eager but less talented players? Does anyone ask questions when a boy without financial hardship prefers working a 20-hours-a-week, late-afternoon job over trying out for varsity debate? In many ways, educators can challenge students’ avoidance of the abundance of educational, athletic, recreational, and social choices. And they also can take a stand if they see students overengage, needlessly exhausting themselves to impress college-admissions officers.

Many high schools do try to fight disengagement. The press for academic success is stronger today than 25 years ago, thanks to the tight alignment of curricular frameworks and state tests. Fewer students are anonymous whenever educators make good use of advisory periods, smaller classes, senior projects, and other efforts to combat isolation.

Still, if my students’ children take my class in 2035, I hope their interviews report fewer should-haves and could-haves.

Robert L. Hampel, the author of The Last Little Citadel: American High Schools Since 1940, is the secretary/treasurer of the History of Education Society. He teaches at the University of Delaware, in Newark, Del.


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To: Sopater

Adults tend to forget a few important details about their lives as high school students. First and foremost, adolescence isn’t easy. From junior high through high school, many students lead lives that are “all nerve ends and hormones”, with growth spurts and fatigue.

Children need a lot of food, and for many, 10 hours of sleep at night is barely enough. With adolescence, they experience new and startling development of sexual characteristics that are often unnerving. To make things much worse, they are ignorant of sex and sexuality, and have few social skills.

It is hard for many of them to even imagine the opposite sex as human. Stable emotional attachment is a far off dream. Deep feelings of inadequacy are the norm, and students are easily deceived about what is normal and natural.

On top of this, they are expected to study and learn, have hobbies and extracurricular activities, and plan for the future, even though their world view is a week or two in the future and past, and just one city away.


21 posted on 02/26/2010 10:23:20 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: stormer

You’ll have to wait for the book...


22 posted on 02/26/2010 10:25:04 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Sopater

“I regret sticking with my girlfriend all through highschool. My life didn’t begin to get good until she was gone.”

Yea, and I bet like me you thought life could not get any lower when the break-up came. With time though came wisdom.

Garth Brooks knew when he wrote these words to Unanswered Prayers

“Sometimes I thank God for unanswered prayers”

And in the song “The Dance”

The Dance:
Looking back on the memory of
The dance we shared ‘neath the stars above
For a moment all the world was right
How could I have known that you’d ever say goodbye

And now I’m glad I didn’t know
The way it all would end, the way it all would go
Our lives are better left to chance
I could have missed the pain
But I’d have had to miss the dance

Holding you, I held everything
For a moment wasn’t I a king
But if I’d only known how the king would fall
Hey who’s to say? you know I might have changed it all

And now I’m glad I didn’t know
The way it all would end the way it all would go
Our lives are better left to chance
I could have missed the pain
But I’d have had to miss the dance

Yes my life, it’s better left to chance
I could have missed the pain
But I’d have had to miss the dance


23 posted on 02/26/2010 10:27:39 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: Sopater

My only regret: Not dating Gaye Terrell when I had the chance. A few months later she became a Dallss Cowboys Cheerleader.


24 posted on 02/26/2010 10:29:35 AM PST by acad1228 (Palin/Watts in 2012!!!)
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To: wtc911

Cause I’d rather regret not doing someone than regret doing someone.


25 posted on 02/26/2010 10:33:45 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

You want the nickname?


26 posted on 02/26/2010 10:34:10 AM PST by lesko
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To: lesko

all girl catholic school...should have sued the school for abuse.


27 posted on 02/26/2010 10:36:20 AM PST by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: NavyCanDo
Yea, and I bet like me you thought life could not get any lower when the break-up came. With time though came wisdom.

Although I do know what you mean, that's really not how it went. She kinda latched onto me and threatened any other girl that came near me. I liked her OK as a friend at first, but was uncomfortable with her persistance that we be "exclusive". However, she told me that she would kill herself if I ever broke up with her. I didn't have the strength or the nerve to tell her how I really felt. I wound up getting her pregnant my senior year and then we had another baby a couple years later. Finally, she decided she wanted someone else and I couldn't have been happier for myself, but heartbroken for my kids.

I did later meet someone who broke my heart when we split, but we both came to realize that we were meant to be together. Now I've been happily married to her for nearly 20 years and my life couldn't be better.
28 posted on 02/26/2010 10:39:24 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: lesko

Yes - sorry if I wasn’t clear...


29 posted on 02/26/2010 10:44:08 AM PST by stormer
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To: Sopater
I regret not drinking in high school.

I didn't learn about drinking in HS and went overboard when I got to college. How I got the grades I got I'll never know. Playing a sport had a lot to do with staying on track I guess.

30 posted on 02/26/2010 10:54:03 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: stormer

Let’s just say that I misread the signals and the offer came without a rain date.


31 posted on 02/26/2010 11:04:10 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Sopater
Yikes! that story makes my “dear John Letter” moment seem normal and just part of growing up. `

Though while I was drowning my sorrows in the Navy, trying not to think about the punk she left me for, he was giving her a serious case of non curable Herpes and a child before she finally wised up and left him. I'm sure there were allot of “If only” thoughts in her mind over those first years.

32 posted on 02/26/2010 11:05:37 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: thefactor

“I regret not drinking in high school. I didn’t learn about drinking in HS and went overboard when I got to college.”

LOL! There was many a HS party where my beer was poured into sombody’s housplant. It was the Navy that changed my thinking about beer. That’s where I learned to love an ice cold frost mug of beer.


33 posted on 02/26/2010 11:11:19 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: wtc911

Been there, done that.


34 posted on 02/26/2010 11:12:28 AM PST by stormer
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To: Sopater
Speaking of School - I and my wife are having some jaw dropping moments looking at my son's second grade homework. My Wife with a bachelors degree and great grades can't help him with this crap.

This is the stuff he is being taught.....called everyday mathematics

Math Education: An Inconvenient Truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1qee-bTZI

35 posted on 02/26/2010 11:21:12 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: NavyCanDo
I'm sure there were allot of “If only” thoughts in her mind over those first years.

You can probably count on it.
36 posted on 02/26/2010 11:21:29 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: bgill

Sounds like my high school-did you grow up in Boerne.


37 posted on 02/26/2010 11:24:23 AM PST by call meVeronica
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To: NavyCanDo

Now I know what my daughter means when she tells me “just teach me one way to do it and then leave me alone”.

Good grief.


38 posted on 02/26/2010 11:29:04 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: NavyCanDo
"...my beer was poured into sombody’s housplant."

That, sir, is alcohol abuse and it will not stand! Ha. I always thought my dad was kidding with that old 'lampshade on the head' line. Until I saw a kid do it freshman year. Then it all made sense.

39 posted on 02/26/2010 11:29:29 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

“That, sir, is alcohol abuse and it will not stand! Ha. I always thought my dad was kidding with that old ‘lampshade on the head’ line.”

In the Navy I saw a guy just returning from alcohol rehab down a whole bottle of Aqua Velva. And that was one scary guy I tell you. He would come back from shore leave so drunk he would look for anyone born north of the Mason Dixon line and pull them from their bunk and beat the tar out of them. I had my turn once or twice.


40 posted on 02/26/2010 11:48:09 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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