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Should Have, Could Have: What Parents Regret About High School
EducationWeek ^ | February 23, 2010 | Robert L. Hampel

Posted on 02/26/2010 9:42:41 AM PST by Sopater

Each semester, my undergraduate history-of-education students ask their parents 10 questions about their time in high school. The interviews usually confirm what we discuss in class—the impact of protests in the late 1960s, the rise of special education, more female sports, and contrasts between rural and urban, Catholic and public schools.

But the replies to one question have surprised me: “If you could travel back in time, what would you change—in your own behavior or in the school itself—to make your high school experience better?”

Rather than fault their schools, most parents criticize themselves. Of the 178 respondents since 2007, 110 focused on their own behavior. Only 23 dwelt on the high school. Thirty-three others revisited both school and self. “Nothing” was the answer from eight, and four felt out of place because of acceleration or relocation.

Looking back, high school was a combination of studying, socializing, and joining. Nearly all of the 143 parents who would change their younger selves made comments in one or more of these three areas:

• Study harder. This was the point raised most often. Sixty respondents wished they had been more diligent. They spoke in general terms of more time and effort—trying harder—rather than describing particular study strategies they would have used. Eleven of the 60 regretted their choice of courses: They should have taken more college-prep or honors classes. Only six said they should have eased up, had more fun, and cared less about grades.

• Friends. There were 51 remarks on this subject, with 28 respondents recalling how shy and isolated they felt. If they could relive this time, they would be more outgoing, make new friends, or date more often. In contrast, nine said they were too obsessed with popularity, ignoring or teasing people they should have treated decently.

• Extracurriculars. Of the 44 comments, only two parents said they had done too much. Everyone else said they would either get involved more or stay involved. Many different sports and clubs were recalled as enjoyable experiences.

What could the school have done differently? Smaller classes, higher expectations, and different courses were recurring suggestions, but none was as common as the wish (from 12 parents) that guidance counselors had been more helpful. They either were not accessible or they were pessimistic. Even so, 143 of the 178 parents took personal responsibility for their disappointments and shortcomings, rather than blaming the teachers, administrators, or curriculum.

If these parents represent the opinion of middle-class America, then self-reliance has clearly not gone out of style. Will and stamina, making better decisions and sticking with them, and using the array of available opportunities wisely: Those are the lessons learned from high school by Americans now in their 40s and 50s.

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What are the implications of these responses? First, that grassroots dissatisfaction with high schools may be less acute than policymakers’. Motivation and perseverance come from within, these parents seem to be saying, even if rules and regulations provide a system of incentives and penalties. Many know from experience that change begins when a student decides to push a bit more.

The second implication is that current school improvement initiatives may be too narrow. The federal Race to the Top competition and its reform counterparts overlook extracurriculars and friends. Education takes place in classrooms and depends on teachers and textbooks, many reformers assume. What young people learn from each other and from their coaches and advisers seems irrelevant to folks like U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. Isn’t life after the final bell the students’ own time? How can educators intrude on socializing and playing, when they already dominate seven hours of each weekday? Don’t we want engineers who know calculus rather than volleyball and Facebook?

Those objections miss the basic point my students’ parents expressed. These adults wish they had been more engaged across the board—in academics, after school, and with other people. They regret holding back much more than jumping in. If these parents came to my class, I’d begin my discussion of their interviews by showing them the carpe diem scene in the film “Dead Poets Society,” in which the teacher played by Robin Williams exhorts his prep school students to seize the day.

Schools teach rules of engagement. Either overtly or covertly, they tell students whether or not participation matters. Can Fred pass without talking in class as Mr. Smith lectures day after day? Does a chemistry lab require Linda, Yvonne, and Jose to work together? Are intramurals available to eager but less talented players? Does anyone ask questions when a boy without financial hardship prefers working a 20-hours-a-week, late-afternoon job over trying out for varsity debate? In many ways, educators can challenge students’ avoidance of the abundance of educational, athletic, recreational, and social choices. And they also can take a stand if they see students overengage, needlessly exhausting themselves to impress college-admissions officers.

Many high schools do try to fight disengagement. The press for academic success is stronger today than 25 years ago, thanks to the tight alignment of curricular frameworks and state tests. Fewer students are anonymous whenever educators make good use of advisory periods, smaller classes, senior projects, and other efforts to combat isolation.

Still, if my students’ children take my class in 2035, I hope their interviews report fewer should-haves and could-haves.

Robert L. Hampel, the author of The Last Little Citadel: American High Schools Since 1940, is the secretary/treasurer of the History of Education Society. He teaches at the University of Delaware, in Newark, Del.


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What are the implications of these responses? First, that grassroots dissatisfaction with high schools may be less acute than policymakers’. Motivation and perseverance come from within, these parents seem to be saying, even if rules and regulations provide a system of incentives and penalties. Many know from experience that change begins when a student decides to push a bit more.

Student's will decide to push a bit more when they have clear goals, both short-term and long-term, and they know what they need to do to reach those goals and what kind of things will hamper those goals.

Their goals don't need to be too specific, and they can change and evolve, but we need to be sure and teach kids that the consequences of many bad decisions will derail most goals and will close a lot of doors.

Doors can be re-opened and goals can still be reached, but it becomes exponentially more difficult when you have a child, drop out of school, get arrested, get poor grades, etc.
1 posted on 02/26/2010 9:42:41 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

I regret not punching the SOB squarely in the nose who called me a terrible nickname that followed me throughout my freshman through junior year. He was too big for me - couldn’t do a damn thing about it.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 9:46:46 AM PST by lesko
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To: Sopater

I’ll tell you the significance: you are much wiser and more mature at 50 than you are at 16!


3 posted on 02/26/2010 9:46:56 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Sopater

Graduated in ‘75. I think I saw my guidance counselor once from a distance. I showed up for school one day and was informed that this was the day for the ACT test. I didn’t know what it was. I won’t tell you what I scored...but it was pretty low. I had heard of college scholarships, but no one ever mentioned their variety or possible availability.


4 posted on 02/26/2010 9:55:59 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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At 16 you are thinking with hormones, at 50 you are thinking with your head.

Students should be matched with their strengths ie, if they excel at math why do they need to take physical education?

5 posted on 02/26/2010 9:56:45 AM PST by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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My only regret is that I did not make better grades. All of my teachers told me I was a lot smarter than my tests grades showed. That goes for college, too. I loved going to school. My IQ tests showed I was a lot smartyer, too. I do not have a clue as to why I did not make better grades because I did not party, have a bf, etc. I did have a good excuse my senior year but will not go into that.
6 posted on 02/26/2010 9:58:05 AM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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I’ll tell you the significance: you are much wiser and more mature at 50 than you are at 16!

Absolutely. At 16, I would not listen to any advice that I would now like to give myself... (does that make any sense at all)?
7 posted on 02/26/2010 9:59:16 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater
My only regret from HS?

Theresa Fabianski...

8 posted on 02/26/2010 9:59:43 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: MamaB

Sorry, smarter not what I typed. Hate this laptop. I thought about sending an email with all of the mistakes to see if someone could make sense of it. Used spell check, too.


9 posted on 02/26/2010 10:01:13 AM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: Sopater

I would have made every effort to date Sara Blakely. (Spanx).


10 posted on 02/26/2010 10:03:44 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: Sopater

I will NEVER my parents for moving me to the arm pit of the world for my high school years. It was pure hell for four years of nothing but inbreeds getting smashed and inbreeding more every night of the week. Two weeks after graduation I put that nothing little pissant place in my rear view mirror.


11 posted on 02/26/2010 10:05:52 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Sopater

I regret not puting a patent on the words; Ipod, Starbucks, Wii, and Xbox.


12 posted on 02/26/2010 10:06:39 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: goseminoles

You mean it wasn’t, deciding to go to FSU?

(Ducking for cover)


13 posted on 02/26/2010 10:07:03 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Drawsing
Graduated in ‘75. I think I saw my guidance counselor once from a distance. I showed up for school one day and was informed that this was the day for the ACT test. I didn’t know what it was. I won’t tell you what I scored...but it was pretty low. I had heard of college scholarships, but no one ever mentioned their variety or possible availability.

I think we must have passed in the hall once, sigh.

14 posted on 02/26/2010 10:07:11 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Drawsing

“Graduated in ‘75. I think I saw my guidance counselor once from a distance.”

Class of 77 here. Same story. But the Navy Recruiter had no trouble finding me.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 10:11:07 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: NavyCanDo

I regret sticking with my girlfriend all through highschool. My life didn’t begin to get good until she was gone.

I also regret not having a “plan B” in case I didn’t become a rock star.


16 posted on 02/26/2010 10:14:01 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Drawsing
Graduated in ‘75. I think I saw my guidance counselor once from a distance.

My guidance counselor talked me into coming back to school after dropping out... twice. I'm thankful for that.
17 posted on 02/26/2010 10:16:03 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: dfwgator

Haha!!! I knew that girl from primer through college. You never know who’s gonna be rich.

I loved FSU. I’m just waiting for the g-friend to finish her phd so I can get out of Tallahassee.


18 posted on 02/26/2010 10:16:21 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: lesko

What was it?


19 posted on 02/26/2010 10:22:03 AM PST by stormer
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To: wtc911

So did you do her or not?


20 posted on 02/26/2010 10:22:42 AM PST by stormer
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