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Former trainer said mistake triggered orca attack
hosted ^ | Feb 26

Posted on 02/26/2010 5:36:59 AM PST by JoeProBono

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- The former boss of a trainer drowned by a killer whale in Orlando says he believes the attack was triggered by the trainer's mistake.

Thad Lacinak (lah-CIN'-ick), a former head trainer at SeaWorld, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Friday that he has seen video of the moments preceding the fatal attack Wednesday. He said he believes trainer Dawn Brancheau (bran-CHOH') made a mistake by letting her ponytail drift in the water in front of the killer whale.

Lacinak says the killer whale grabbed the ponytail in his mouth and pulled her in the water.

Lacinak says Brancheau, if she were alive, would acknowledge it was her mistake......

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dawnbrancheau; jpb; killerwhale; orca; seaworld; tilikum
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To: goodwithagun

I wonder when he was captured? If he had lived in the ocean for 10-12 years before capture I’d return him to the ocean. It used to be thought good to have animals in zoos because the public never got a chance to observe them. Today they are all over the TV (Nature, Public Broadcasting, animal planet, etc.) We don’t need them to be in zoos for the public to view or scientists to study. If they are endangered then programs in a truly natural environment should be used.

I think our “need,’ for zoos is over.


101 posted on 02/26/2010 12:54:47 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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To: goat granny

102 posted on 02/26/2010 1:09:17 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: WHATNEXT?

Captured near Iceland in November 1983, Tilikum “was housed in small tanks from the beginning,” said Blake. SeaWorld Orlando acquired the whale in January 1992, and put him in a breeding program shortly thereafter.


103 posted on 02/26/2010 1:22:52 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

So, the question is, how old was he when captured? He has been in captivity a long time. But, was he in the wild long enough before capture to make it on his own?

Keiko was young when captured and never really acquired the total skill to survive in the wild. They tried and tried with some success.


104 posted on 02/26/2010 2:43:38 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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To: KC_Conspirator; All

So what’s in a name? They’re highly intelligent animals who are very capable killers....of their target prey. Look it up. Look at what they hunt in the wild.

Humans aren’t on the menu.

I wish more here would learn just a bit about these critters (I happen to be a huge “fan” of them) rather than spouting trite phrases based upon their unfortunate common name and likening them to lions, tigers, etc., and falling onto the tired bromide of “gee, he was just doing what God programmed him to do”.

This one’s just a mean sumbitch who has no business being around people.

I’ll be you and others would have a totally different tune here if the munched one in this case was some little girl from the audience petting the cute killer whale. How’d you feel then?


105 posted on 02/26/2010 3:12:52 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: JoeProBono

WHO RANG THE DINNER BELL......YUMMY WHITE GIRL TODAY.


106 posted on 02/26/2010 4:57:17 PM PST by goat granny
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To: JoeProBono

So Tilly’s basically a big kid at heart. A very big, very strong kid.


107 posted on 02/26/2010 5:00:04 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)...R.I.P.)
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To: RichInOC

108 posted on 02/26/2010 5:04:29 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: BenKenobi
Your comparison is invalid. This whale did not wander into human territory and become a danger, as bears often do (which is another discussion).

THEY captured HIM. THEY brought HIM into the human world, rather than allowing him to live in his own environment, where killer whales do not attack people for food.

Perhaps he is pissed that he is living in a swimming pool, and he is attempting to get that point across. He is not JAWS, for crying out loud.

What makes it worse is that this whale has killed three people, and yet they will continue to keep him, rather than free him, because he is worth too much money to them as a breeder.

109 posted on 02/26/2010 5:49:20 PM PST by teenyelliott (www.thewaterrock.com)
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To: JoeProBono
"The former boss of a trainer drowned by a killer whale in Orlando says he believes the attack was triggered by the trainer's mistake."

I agree. The trainers mistake was forgeting she weighed under 200 lbs. and the Critter weighed over 4000 lbs. and if it decided to thump the trainer then its game over before you can say "Free Willy"...

110 posted on 02/26/2010 5:54:08 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: RightOnline
I’ll be you and others would have a totally different tune here if the munched one in this case was some little girl from the audience petting the cute killer whale. How’d you feel then?

My opinion would be that the parent of that child is an idiot.

Kinda like a story a couple of years ago about a teenage girl getting her grad photos taken with a tiger. She squealed, he killed her. Good idea, mom!!!!

Tiger's fault? Nope.

Whale's fault? Nope.

Any human who interacts with any wild animal is knowingly putting themselves at risk, and apparently it is a risk they are willing to take. Hell, even an "adorable, harmless" kangaroo can kill a grown man.

People are stupid when it comes to this crap.

111 posted on 02/26/2010 6:01:33 PM PST by teenyelliott (www.thewaterrock.com)
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To: teenyelliott

Yeah, well, great. That’d be one hell of a dose of solace to the parents.


112 posted on 02/26/2010 7:08:10 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Mad Dawgg

The ratio was probably 140ish to over 12,000! When you are 1% the size of another creature, a bit of extra caution is in order!


113 posted on 02/26/2010 7:11:32 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: JoeProBono

Rumor has it Tilikum’s first name is, “Uralive”...


114 posted on 02/26/2010 7:13:20 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: RightOnline
Big whoop. Parents who would put their kid next to a wild animal capable of killing the kid are idiots.

I would feel sorry for the kid, not the parents.

115 posted on 02/26/2010 7:17:08 PM PST by teenyelliott (www.thewaterrock.com)
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To: RightOnline

It wasn’t created by God to be stuck in a big bathtub for anyone’s amusement. As with all animals they eat, mate, kill, poop and eat some more. It’s our own arrogance that suggests they can be tamed. We can attach human emotions to them but at our own risk. This woman died “doing what she loved” but what she loved was a dangerous undertaking. I hope this woman’s family takes Sea World through the legal meat grinder for all they have just because they suck. I heard on the radio yesterday the mgr of Sea World stating that they would start the shows again and that “he (Tillikum) will remain part of the team”. I’m sure Tillikum is relieved.


116 posted on 02/26/2010 7:34:25 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (i prefer my-partisan over bi-partisan)
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To: JoeProBono

Note to self:
Stop training Orca’s to immediately grab person and dive while thrashing upon command signal of ‘ponytail dangling on surface of water’,...very important.


118 posted on 02/26/2010 7:53:33 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: RightOnline

“This one’s just a mean sumbitch who has no business being around people.”

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I don’t know that he’s mean because it happened in San Diego (circa 1970’s) with a Shamu whale also. Shamu didn’t kill the girl trainer but he did grab her by the leg and drag her down to the bottom of the pool. He was just “playing” with her.

I don’t believe for a minute these whales are trying to kill these trainers. I think they are just showing their natural dominance and superiority in the water.

If the whales wanted to kill, they would bite and eat their victims and that’s not what happened in ANY of these cases.


119 posted on 02/26/2010 8:25:42 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

I have always thought a simple way to prevent these events from ending in tragedy was for the trainers to wear a scuba tank, just in case the whale took them down too long.

Where is OSHA?


120 posted on 02/26/2010 8:28:16 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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