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Former trainer said mistake triggered orca attack
hosted ^ | Feb 26

Posted on 02/26/2010 5:36:59 AM PST by JoeProBono

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- The former boss of a trainer drowned by a killer whale in Orlando says he believes the attack was triggered by the trainer's mistake.

Thad Lacinak (lah-CIN'-ick), a former head trainer at SeaWorld, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Friday that he has seen video of the moments preceding the fatal attack Wednesday. He said he believes trainer Dawn Brancheau (bran-CHOH') made a mistake by letting her ponytail drift in the water in front of the killer whale.

Lacinak says the killer whale grabbed the ponytail in his mouth and pulled her in the water.

Lacinak says Brancheau, if she were alive, would acknowledge it was her mistake......

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dawnbrancheau; jpb; killerwhale; orca; seaworld; tilikum
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To: TomGuy

big time


81 posted on 02/26/2010 7:04:37 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: JoeProBono

I’ll tell you why I don’t even like pictures like this. It gives the impression this whale is showing affection. It gives the illusion this killer whale is no different than a little cute puppy you can sit on your lap.
I can’t quite put my finger on it, but there is just something so wrong with pictures like this that overly humanize something that is very dangerous.


82 posted on 02/26/2010 7:07:59 AM PST by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: freemike

83 posted on 02/26/2010 7:14:37 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Witnesses said the whale played with Brancheau like a toy. Authorities said that trainers trying to help her could not get into the water because Tilikum was so aggressive. They had to coax him into a smaller pool and raise him out of the water on a platform before they could free her.

Pretty gruesome.


84 posted on 02/26/2010 7:24:43 AM PST by linn37 ( "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: bcsco
lions, tigers, bears, etc.

(Seeing mental image of Judy Garland as Dorothy Gale on the Yellow Brick Road saying "Lions and tigers and bears! Et cetera!)

85 posted on 02/26/2010 7:25:27 AM PST by thulldud
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To: Doogle

“Anything is possible when you BELIEVE”.

That is an insidious message we keep giving kids. Believe what? Anything worthwhile takes a little more then “belief”. Like hard unrelenting work sometimes for years.


86 posted on 02/26/2010 7:38:23 AM PST by DManA
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To: RightOnline
No, he needs to be released.

He did not put himself in that tiny pool of water. People did.

88 posted on 02/26/2010 8:00:08 AM PST by teenyelliott (www.thewaterrock.com)
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To: teenyelliott

He needs to be killed. Period.

We do this with bears who become problems for people. Same for killer whales. Once they get a taste for people, do not release them into the wild.


89 posted on 02/26/2010 8:11:49 AM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: 1raider1
Ding! COO COO, Ding! COO COO

There are lots of Orcas that interact with humans without killing humans. This one is now involved in 3 human deaths. It would be a bad idea to allow its genes to further propagate. It shouldn't be allowed to further breed, and is too dangerous to be allowed near humans again. Give it to the Japanese to put on the menu.

90 posted on 02/26/2010 8:21:28 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Travis McGee
He killed TWO other humans before Seaworld. That’s why he was sold as a “breeder only” with no human contact allowed.

Considering that one of his offspring was also involved in an incident, I submit that allowing him to breed was a bad idea. Only proven human-friendly orcas should breed for show animals. Think of it as evolution in action.

91 posted on 02/26/2010 8:24:04 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: JoeProBono

How is it a mistake when the whale is doing what it does naturally? It’s as though some of these people want to convince us morons that killer whales really aren’t dangerous.
Like they’re really so much smarter than the rest of us and they have to be on some kind of mission to convince us that wild beasts really aren’t wild at all. There’s really nothing dangerous about a killer whale. Our fear and ignorance of nature has lead us to misunderstand the killer whale. They’re not killers, they’re “Orcas.”
Now, I have nothing against these shows or against zoos. Nothing at all. But it cannot be a mistake when the whale attacks a trainer. The trainer is food. Period. The mistake is when the trainer forgets that and actually believes the whale “loves and trusts” the trainer. That it’s really not about that fish it gets as a reward, it’s about that special “relationship” of love and trust.


92 posted on 02/26/2010 8:40:43 AM PST by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: freemike
It gives the impression this whale is showing affection.

It might be showing affection at that very moment. But any wild animal in captivity, semi-tamed, can reverse that cuddly love in an immediate and deadly way.

93 posted on 02/26/2010 8:50:34 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: RightOnline
This animal has now killed THREE people. It needs to be destroyed.

I think SeaWorld management needs to be destroyed.

94 posted on 02/26/2010 8:51:46 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: RightOnline

It’s a Killer Whale. And frankly, it didn’t even mean to kill her, it was just playing. It didn’t eat her.

That would be like blaming a dog on a leash for running around someone and tripping them so they crack their head and die.


95 posted on 02/26/2010 8:54:31 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RightOnline
Extremely intelligent wild animal with giant teeth + History of mankilling + 20 years of captivity + target of opportunity

Nuff said.

96 posted on 02/26/2010 9:12:11 AM PST by atc23
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To: Travis McGee

Read up on ‘em. They don’t typically hunt human prey. We aren’t on their menu. Seals are.

I don’t think my previous reply necessitated a smart-ass response, either.


97 posted on 02/26/2010 9:36:30 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: JoeProBono

The problem here as I see it is that our pop culture overreacts to certain things and probably underreacts to others.

How is this fundamentally any different then the case of a roofer falling off a roof while working (apparently happens a lot - roofing is actuarially a very hazardous profession) or an electric company worker frying themselves while working near high voltage lines or any number of other bad outcomes that occur in daily life?

In my mind it’s not. It’s just the Disneyfication and Oprahization of our culture makes this somehow different.

The trainer was working at a somewhat hazardous job and eventually she drew the short straw.

The difference here was that is was in front of a lot of kids, the everyone has heard of Shamu and Free Willy.

But fundamentally, it’s no different then a cop getting killed while making a traffic stop on the highway and getting clipped by a passing vehicle.


98 posted on 02/26/2010 9:40:30 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: RightOnline

Its called a “Killer Whale” for a reason, not a “Cuddly Whale”. By nature, these are still animals, and act on animal instict.


99 posted on 02/26/2010 9:42:32 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: JoeProBono

She is in love and he is hungry......and patient..


100 posted on 02/26/2010 11:40:41 AM PST by goat granny
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