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Birtherism For Dummies
Vanity | 02/19/2010 | Wizard1961

Posted on 02/19/2010 5:51:27 AM PST by wizard1961

If BHO is removed from office because he is not a natural citizen, he then becomes a race martyr and Biden becomes president. Hillary probably becomes VP. How would this help conservatives in 2010 and 2012 -- it would hurt us, right?

If the Lewinsky debacle had removed Clinton, Gore would have become President and cruised to his own electorial victory. This would have been a disaster.

I agree there is a puzzle here. I agree there is free speech & everyone has a right to pursue this. My question: is there some angle here that I've missed that makes this smart?


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To: browardchad

The Founding Fathers clearly, explicitly must have known what the definition of a ‘natural born citizen’ was when they embedded Vattel’s Law of Nations into the Constitution by wording in Article I Section 8.


241 posted on 04/07/2010 4:16:52 PM PDT by noinfringers
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To: longtermmemmory
the precedent that he is in the process of setting. that is, that someone born to a foreign father and thus the subject of a foreign crown is considered NBC...when clearly, the historical records shows he couldn't be.

If he finishes a full term, and is simply unqualified "next" time....well, what about the time he spent in that position already?

That precedent.

242 posted on 04/07/2010 4:17:16 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

has anyone checked to see how many other presidents have have the same issue?

This was not raised when Tanker Dukakis ran. How about the first pre civil war presidents?

I think that issue is doomed to failure.

Focus on mandating proof of born in the USA and take it from there.


243 posted on 04/07/2010 4:44:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Only Chester Arthur, and his usurping the presidency (via the VP spot) wasn't fully understood until 2008.

The Constitution doesn't stipulate qualifications for who can "run" for POTUS. A resident alien green card holder (who was also a convicted felon) ran and was "allowed" on multiple states' ballots.

If you think the issue is doomed to failure, then stop thinking about it.

Some of us can multitask and prefer to address the "root" of the issue re: anything related to Barry...including the illegal h.c. debacle.

244 posted on 04/07/2010 4:56:34 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I would much rather support AND PASS measures to require physical proof of US citizenship by birth in the USA.


245 posted on 04/07/2010 5:00:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Then do that.

However, how can a usurper sign health care into law?

How can a usurper sign a nuclear NP treaty?

etc.

246 posted on 04/07/2010 5:04:08 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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