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Sick of the "birthers" being the du jour whipping post (Beck, O'Reilly, even Palin did not defend)

Posted on 02/16/2010 5:38:20 PM PST by cycle of discernment

You know, I've just about had it with Mr. 'Due Diligence', Mr "Research your brains out', Glenn Beck --mercilessly going after the genuine questions about Obama's veiled past as "lunatic", fringe, insane--including the MIA birth certificate and the missing, contradictory and veiled Obama personal, professional and academic records.

He and O'Reilly are beginning to protest too damn much...the TRUTH of the matter is that there are LEGION of murky questions surroundiong Obama. It is conspicuously bizarre the way they are behaving about it--overdoing the "hostility", the ridicule.

Since Beck is so quick to castigate and dismiss the so-called much maligned, "birthers"---then PROVE it is nonsense with real hard core data and info--debunk the swirl with counter-evidence--answer the gaps--let's see one of his famous research shows on this 'raging through the underground' topic, eh?

WHY NOT BECK?


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KEYWORDS: beck; billoreilly; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; glennbeck; naturalborncitizen; oreilly
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To: cycle of discernment

Citizens should be ablke to ask these questions. These people work for us. Obviously Hussein is working to destroy us.


61 posted on 02/16/2010 7:38:47 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: MamaDearest; LucyT

Did you see this about Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal wanting to expand his “alliances” with Murdoch News Corp?


62 posted on 02/16/2010 8:11:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Uncle Chip

When you find a court of law that dignifies this nonsense with anything other than a prompt and/or scathing dismissal, let us know.


63 posted on 02/16/2010 8:20:41 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: cycle of discernment

To hell with Beck, and I’m starting to think, “To hell with eligbility.”

Remember what brought Nixon down? No, not a bungled burglary of the Watergate Hotel. It was the breadth, depth, and audacity of the COVER-UP.

Coming soon to putative POTUS near you.


64 posted on 02/16/2010 8:48:56 PM PST by TexasVoter (No Constituion - No Union!)
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To: cycle of discernment
Glenn Beck ??
We dare you with this challenge !
Prove us wrong !
Put all your cards on the table !
Put your money where your mouth is or shut up !
If you can't prove us that we are wrong, then you are nothing but a loud mouth wimp.
65 posted on 02/16/2010 8:57:41 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: cycle of discernment

obumpa


66 posted on 02/16/2010 8:58:55 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: HerrBlucher
" Sometimes I get the feeling that they are protesting too much so when the sh*t finally hits the fan and bambi has to go they can say to the rioters that it wasn’t them that got it going. "

Actually, on the contrary, with their self inflated egos, they will claim that they all along knew this and had exclusive information on it that they were the first ones to let us know about it.
67 posted on 02/16/2010 9:01:28 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist
” Sometimes I get the feeling that they are protesting too much so when the sh*t finally hits the fan and bambi has to go they can say to the rioters that it wasn’t them that got it going. “

“Actually, on the contrary, with their self inflated egos, they will claim that they all along knew this and had exclusive information on it that they were the first ones to let us know about it.”

No cr@p will hit the fan over this, bambi won't go over this, and there will be no riots. With a little luck, he will simply lose his reelection bid in 2012 and the country will move on, never having paid any particular attention to all this quasi-apocalyptic nonsense.

68 posted on 02/16/2010 9:10:35 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: American Constitutionalist; LucyT
Actually, on the contrary, with their self inflated egos, they will claim that they all along knew this and had exclusive information on it that they were the first ones to let us know about it.

We used to schedule our afternoon around Beck and O'Reilly, but now we watch Neil Cavuto and turn off the TV. Both Beck and O'Reilly are dancing to the same drummer. Beck, after all, is the one who told his viewers to question boldly and not relent until we got answers. This question was, after all, required of McCain.

McCain's Birthplace

Snips: Now that the New York Times has run an article raising the question of whether John McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone to two American-citizen parents, at a time when the Canal Zone was an American territory, makes him ineligible to be President, I guess we have to take the issue seriously.  If the Old Gray Lady speaks, we must listen.  (Or was that E. F. Hutton?)  Anyway, is McCain a "natural born citizen"?  And who decides?

Jill Pryor, the Atlanta lawyer mentioned in the Times article, wrote a good note on the topic for the Yale Law Journal: 97 Yale L.J. 881.  Her conclusion was that Congress ought to be permitted to settle the question by legislation.  Congress did so in 1790, by its Act of March 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, when it unequivocally declared that a person born abroad to American parents was a natural born citizen.  Even if you don't buy Pryor's argument, the 1790 act is a pretty good indication of what the Framers meant by a natural born citizen. 

69 posted on 02/16/2010 9:16:48 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: cycle of discernment
I watched it twice.
Palin DID JUST FINE!

She not only disagreed with O Reilly but seemed pretty annoyed with him.

70 posted on 02/16/2010 11:40:29 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Frantzie

O’Reilly backtracked on his claim he saw BO’s BC about 10 days speaking with Beck ago saying he saw only an image as I recall.


71 posted on 02/16/2010 11:45:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: DaveTesla

Good to hear that DT.


72 posted on 02/16/2010 11:57:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: MamaDearest
I can't say I buy Pryor's logic. The Congress makes the laws but it's the Supreme Court who interprets whether that law is constitutionally sound.

Since the Supreme Court has never emphatically given an opinion as to the intent of the Framers with regard to A2 and has never entertained a case asking for one, the question is still on the table. Obama is not the first candidate who was ever questioned and this comes even after legislation because the door on the interpretation against the Constitution hasn't been shut by the Supreme Court. The Fourteenth Amendment doesn't do it and Wong Kim Ark doesn't do it.

While Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly would love to paint everyone into the looney fringe corner, I think it says a lot when a person such as Sarah Palin refuses to allow them to judge her into the padded room they were looking to do.

The eligibility issue is a constitutional one and she knows it. It's Beck and O'Reilly, whom while claiming to love that Constitution so much, are the ones who are dissing it by categorizing ANYONE as a lunatic who wants simple answers.

I personally wouldn't have adopted this label of "birther" that the media used as a definition for those who emphatically don't believe Obama was born here because it's not a proven fact. This "birther" organization did just that and now they have to live with the consequences of agreeing with the media label. It was a stupid idea on that TeoBear's part and an even stupider idea on Apuzzo/Kerchner's part to advertise for him.

I'm not a "birther". I'm definitely not a "9/11 Truther". But I'm certainly smart enough to know that something is going on with the non-answers of eligibility that the Senate started back in February, 2008 and attempted to squash before it got out of hand. Well, now it's out of hand but it's CONGRESS' fault, not the people's fault.

That's a problem of facts that you will never hear on Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly's show.

There's a similar thread where we talked about this same thing on FP here: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2335055/posts - See last comments if you don't want to read the whole thing.

73 posted on 02/17/2010 1:22:30 AM PST by Bronwynn
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To: tired_old_conservative
I know someone who saw the long form. It states that Obunghole is a hermaphrodite. This explains why he wont show it.
74 posted on 02/17/2010 3:54:17 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: tired_old_conservative
When you find a court of law that dignifies this nonsense with anything other than a prompt and/or scathing dismissal, let us know.

So then Article II of the Constitution is nonsense.

75 posted on 02/17/2010 4:28:04 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Red Steel

I remember O’Reilly saying recently (about 10 days ago or so) that he saw a “facsimile” of the birth certificate. But I do not think he said where the facsimile came from (FightTheSmears?, Annenberg’s FactCheck?, the White House Communications office?).


76 posted on 02/17/2010 6:45:37 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (Snowdaze ...)
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To: Red Steel
O’Reilly backtracked on his claim he saw BO’s BC

Here is BOR's exact quote:

"I think the reason they didn't ever produce the birth certificate is because they wanted these loons out there"

Silly me, I thought I had heard that BOR had SEEN the birth certificate??!!?? Anyone? Bueller??

77 posted on 02/17/2010 7:10:41 AM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: Uncle Chip
“So then Article II of the Constitution is nonsense.”

No. Your attempts to insist that it can only mean what you want it to mean are nonsense.

78 posted on 02/17/2010 9:40:42 AM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: cycle of discernment

Don’t diss NautiNurse. She is neither blind, nor a fool.


79 posted on 02/17/2010 9:49:26 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: cycle of discernment
Excellent Post. I guess Saudi owners of NewsCorp won't allow the truth to come out. Remember, Obama BOWED to the king of Saudi Arabia.

This story is too hot to keep quiet for another year. Either one of the lawsuits gets through or Hayworth makes this an issue against McCain. See tagline.

80 posted on 02/17/2010 11:24:40 AM PST by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2010)
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