Posted on 02/13/2010 12:24:57 PM PST by Blueflag
Anyone have experience with concealed carry coats with the built-in ambidextrous pistol pockets? Looking for pros/cons recommendations ...
Comfort? Print? Practicality?
e.g., http://www.freerepublic.com
Looking for options in addition to waist holsters and shoulder holsters.
Thanks for the advice
The biggest problem I see with your coat system is “positive retention”
That said, I think it is a fine system in winter.
I always got hands in pockets in winter to retain the beasty.
That said, I dumped a 1911 on the pavement getting out of the truck using a similar arangement.
No experience with them here. I don’t wear a lot of jackets in Florida. Therefore, I’m limited to an inside the pants pancake holster.
I would look at adjusting yoir weapon choice rather than wearing a goofy jacket.
I have bought various versions with and without sleeves, leather and otherwise.
DON’T!!!
These jackets, vests etc., are all uncomfortable as they do not have a weight distribution framework inside the lining so all the weight of gun and ammo clips weight HANGS ON YOUR NECK. Unless you are hiding a pocket Derringer this soon becomes intolerable. Like uncomfortable new shoes, if they are uncomfortable at the outset they get worse, not better.
With one that had a rolled up, built in hood in the collar it was still unbearble for more than a few minutes!
A leather one without the hood cuts into your neck like a knife and is also unbearable for very long. Even over a turtle neck.
I tried and returned various brands and models one at a time, keeping a hooded version as a cover over a shoulder holster (as somoeone said for winter) and the current sleeveless models sag at the arm hole and show the weapon!!! Concealment??
The same applies to ordinary vests over a shoulder holster. They need to be specifically designed to avoid showing the weapon through the armhole.
As a couple of vendors said this item is a just a spontaneous buy idea and not made according to any logical specs for end users or prolonged wearing comfort.
What nobody seems to have made yet is to build a jacket (or perhaps a vest) around a SHOULDER HOLSTER rather than put some useless flaps in the lining to hold the sidearm and clips.
The best shoulder hoslter I have found is the one where the weapon (Sig .40/p229 in my case) hangs almost upside down - grip down, actually at a good angle for a cross downward draw across your stomach.
Stays hidden with almost any clothing, even sleeveless vests, thoght th harness may show in some cases - also not good.
Unlike the normal up-down holster, which has the grip sit under your arm and bulks ON your rib cage, or the horizontal positioned one that many police forces use and sticks out forward from your body (OK for them as they don’t really care it it shows), this angled holster places the thick part of the weapon, the GRIP, just under the rib cage at an angle, following your body shape, which avoids it bulking, sticking out or showing. Have not tried it with a beer belly.
Anyone who creates a conceal vest (and tests the armholes) and/or a jacket with a shoulder holster strapping harness inside the lining to distribute the weight across the whole back and shoulders will become a multi-millionaire.
Please deal me in with a generous finders fee royalty.
The Double action sucks, but that can be fixed with a walther trigger spring for $4.50
6 shots only
Excellent advice and rationale from someone who has worn the coats. THANKS!
(going to eat dinner now)
I leave mine as is. I dont shoot my balls off pulling it and rack the slide during presentation.
A crisp light 3.5 lbs single action trigger pull
We have tons of people around these parts who CC using IWB holsters. If you look around, you can tell who is carrying. Fanny packs also scream gun. Women all seem to go with carrying in a purse.
mylife, that's one of the weapons I carry, and I've found a way to defeat the pull-off-target effect of the long DA trigger pull: trigger cocking. I practice that every time I shoot it at the range. Pull the trigger back to a predetermined point where the striker is ready (you can feel it), then aim the front sight and gently squeeze. Works every time it's tried, and greatly improves accuracy.
my 442 is hammer less
Its DA only
I hate long DA action. It is great for safety but lousy for accuracy. I will shoot wide left every time. :(
I think it weighs less and holds twice as much as the PA64,But.. It is a bit bulkier.
An underrated fire arm.
The "Wheel of Misfortune" developed by bullseye shooter should help. Also, the best double action drill I've come across (I shoot a lot of revolver) is one by noted 30's trick shot Ed McGivern (5 rounds into a playing card in 2/5th's of a second, and he could also hit 5 simultaneously thrown clay balls). Put a dot of paint on a mirror (full length) and place the muzzle on it from a reasonable distance... practice dryfiring, and try keeping the muzzle on the dot as you increase the speed of firing, later you can add drawing and dryfiring. It will smooth you out.
Coronado Leather........
http://www.coronadoleather.com/newproducts.aspx?n=558547
Vests or good coats w/ CCW/CHL considerations along with other forms of carry......
Did you retire your Thunderwear? I guess packing the Mossberg 500 Cruiser was a bit much. ;)
DA ****s me up.
SA is kinda dangerous in an Adrenalin situation.
I like that Double/Single option.
The CZ 82 has a great DA and SA pull.
Its just a tad bulky for me
Coronado Leather Co.
They are a short length leather jacket. Carry on either side. Inside holsters (pockets) have elastic straps to keep gun secure. Comes in black or brown. Also make a vest in black or brown. Bit pricey. I paid $450 for mine. Saw it advertised in Guns & Ammo and the monthly NRA mag. Great looking jacket and impossible to tell if you’re carrying.
“Tightening grip while pulling trigger”
That’s me. I try and try to break the habit.
Small, reliable, inexpensive, well built, and hits like a .38 spl. Ammo is plentiful and relatively inexpensive.
L
Best value on the market IMHO.
One of the best designs as well. The thing does it all with very little trade off.
Everyone should own at least two
We do. They're in our bug out bags with three spare mags each. BTW those are available from J&G for about 25 a piece.
L
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