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In their words: Experts weigh in on Mac vs. PC security
Cnet ^ | Feb 1, 2010 | Elinor Mills

Posted on 02/06/2010 12:09:39 PM PST by driftdiver

When I am asked the question "Which is more secure, Mac or PC?" I find myself stumbling around for a response because I don't have a clear-cut answer. I use both. And I use antivirus software with both.

So I decided to conduct an informal survey of a bunch of security experts and see what they had to say in the hopes that people can use the information to help them come to their own conclusions.

Before I provide quotes from the 32 experts who participated in the survey, along with edited comments from an interview with a Microsoft representative and a link that Apple provided, I'd like to share some relevant research from antivirus vendor ESET.

More than half of Americans believe that PCs are "very" or "extremely" vulnerable to cybercrime attacks, while only 20 percent say the same about Macs, according to this ESET survey. (Credit: ESET)

ESET released the results of a survey in November related to awareness of cybercrime in the U.S. The survey of more than 1,000 people found that while both PC and Mac users perceive the Mac as being safer, Mac users are victims of cybercrime just as frequently as PC user

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To: Star Traveler

lol yeah sure

http://www.macworld.com/article/140309/2009/04/adobe_pdfvulnerability.html

Adobe acknowledged that all versions of its popular PDF software, including editions for Windows, the Mac and Linux, contain at least one, and possibly two, critical vulnerabilities.

“All currently supported shipping versions of Adobe Reader and Acrobat, [versions] 9.1, 8.1.4, and 7.1.1 and earlier, are vulnerable to this issue,” said David Lenoe, the company’s security program manager...

Proof-of-concept attack code for both bugs has already been published on the Web.


101 posted on 02/06/2010 4:27:00 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Okay... where do I go to get infected now. I mean I’ve got this software on my computer that’s doing nothing (no beeps, no warnings or anything for years now) and I want to see it do something for a change.... :-)


102 posted on 02/06/2010 4:30:15 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Here’s another

http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/display.php?id=730

Apple Mac OS X CoreGraphics PDF Type1 Font Integer Overflow Vulnerability

Remote exploitation of an integer overflow vulnerability in Apple Inc.’s Mac OS X could allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the currently logged in user.

oh and another
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/04/15/ibotnet-trojan.html

Cybercriminals create botnet using Mac computers

and another

http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/02/20/inherent.mac.vulnerability/

“A skilled hacker could use the knowledge to insert malicious code into the same space as an active process, like Safari, and force a Mac to run malware.”


103 posted on 02/06/2010 4:34:08 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

You know... I always knew the Macintosh computer was about the safest computer around for catching any viruses — but — what I did not know, until right now — is hard hard it is to actually go out and “get a virus” — even if you’re trying to... LOL...


104 posted on 02/06/2010 4:37:43 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

You might check for patches. A quick look at http://support.apple.com/downloads/ shows quite a few security related patches that Apple is recommending users download.


105 posted on 02/06/2010 4:37:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Star Traveler

You might check for patches. A quick look at http://support.apple.com/downloads/ shows quite a few security related patches that Apple is recommending users download.


106 posted on 02/06/2010 4:38:05 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
You were saying ...

You might check for patches. A quick look at http://support.apple.com/downloads/ shows quite a few security related patches that Apple is recommending users download.

That runs automatically on my machine... so if it's there... it's done for me... :-)

107 posted on 02/06/2010 4:39:24 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

“I want to see it do something for a change”

Well if you switched to windows there would actually be software you could install and be productive. its a shame to stick with an OS that doesn’t have any software to use.


108 posted on 02/06/2010 4:39:26 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
You were saying ...

Well if you switched to windows there would actually be software you could install and be productive. its a shame to stick with an OS that doesn’t have any software to use.

Yeah, I already know the Windows machines catch the viruses all the time... I meant I wanted to see it happen on the Macintosh, and I just can't make the Macintosh catch a virus no matter how hard I try... it's sorta disappointing doncha know...

109 posted on 02/06/2010 4:41:15 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: driftdiver
I run a dozen websites. I have been on the web since it started. All my sites are on Linux servers running Apache or Red Had. The only time I had problems is a site I ran on windows server. The Unix and Linux ones never crashed and have had hardly any security issues.

At my upload end I run windows and have since 3.1 came out. I was only infected two Times and that was years ago. I am careful of where I visit on the web. Use Firefox and more recently chrome browsers. I use other browsers only to make sure the websites look right in them. If you are careful on the web don't download files from unknown websites you won't get infected. Some one should be giving classes on safe computing on the web. Heck, they teach kids how to use a condom and a banana.

110 posted on 02/06/2010 4:41:36 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: driftdiver; Star Traveler
Windows and Microsoft sure aren’t perfect but the free market chose them over apple time and time again.

Why not just say that you love your Window program? There is no need to try and downgrade Macs is there?

Windows is popular because it is cheap and easy to program with. You get more games, more programs and more viruses, enjoy : )

There is no need to project your deficiencies on others. Have you ever heard the phrase "Methinks the Lady doth protest too much? Think about it.

Also if someone could find a nice juicy exploit on all those unprotected Macs it would be worth billions, much more than any windows exploit would be worth.

111 posted on 02/06/2010 4:47:31 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: Cacique

The only problems I’ve seen with Linux are with PHP or the other software loaded.


112 posted on 02/06/2010 5:13:06 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: B Knotts
I seem to recall a few years back, some guy set up a C64 web server.

My cerebellum just fused.

Cheers!

113 posted on 02/06/2010 10:32:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

http://c64web.com/


114 posted on 02/07/2010 7:03:03 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
It's FUD time. Macworld is this week, so the FUD articles will be published. PING!

Yes, Mac users will be susceptible to psychologically engineered phishing and pharming attacks just as any user of the Internet will be. That does not translate to equivalency of OS risk.


Mac Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List,

115 posted on 02/08/2010 6:26:14 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
You were saying ...

Macworld is this week, so the FUD articles will be published.

I wonder how it's going to be. I don't think that not having an Apple booth there will make a big difference, because there are a whole heck of a lot of other vendors that can really do good there, I think.

It's not such a bad idea to have Apple doing their own timing for promotions, according to how the products work out, internally, in the company. This way, Apple can introduce products whenever it's best suited for them.

And for all the other vendors, well, they don't have the big pull that Apple has, so they can do very well with this kind of big yearly trade show, "MacWorld" for Macintosh and all things "Apple"...

116 posted on 02/08/2010 6:31:57 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: driftdiver
Go back to Democrat Underground

N00B


117 posted on 02/08/2010 6:32:56 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Swordmaker
funny thing I had an email from UPS that had a "receipt" attached that would give me info on my order that was delayed. I clicked on it and it sent something to my saved attachment file.... I never opened it cause usually those things open to be viewed immediately. Sooooo, stupid me tried to open it and view the file, downloaded it a couple of more time with no success till finally it crossed my mind that this was a virus or some other malicious thing.

I deleted it and then securely deleted it from the trash. got the anti-virus Clamx to look around and found no viruses.

What do you think this thing was that was sent to me?

118 posted on 02/08/2010 6:33:24 PM PST by Dick Vomer (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: Biggirl
It could be because MACS are not a big market and the perception is that most of the hacking attacks take place more on PC’s then Macs.

How large does that Mac market have to get before the crackers and crooks take notice of all those naked unprotected computers blythely surfing the Internet and start writing nasty ware for them, Biggirl? Ten million? Twenty? Thirty? Would you be surprised to know there are almost Fifty million Mac OS X computers in use in the world.

Malware writers have written PC viruses for Windows PCs targeting vulnerable population numbering fewer than 12,000 machines.

Why do then they ignore 50,000,000 Macs? I assure it's not obscurity.

119 posted on 02/08/2010 6:36:35 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Never been there so go jump in a lake. Its obvious you lack the judgment to add value to this thread.


120 posted on 02/08/2010 6:44:27 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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