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Judge Carter, 3 sheets to the wind..
American Grand Jury ^ | December 29th, 2009 | Bob Campbell

Posted on 01/01/2010 6:27:46 AM PST by USALiberty

Folks, I often wondered what possessed Judge Carter in California to tell the world “he wanted to try this case on its merits” and then do a sudden 180 by dismissing the case with prejudice? Does the word “arrogance” come to mind? Did the justice system in California just reach the bottom of the barrel? The performance of Judge Carter was totally disgusting to watch.. Oh, and this whoop-ti-do you heard from folks that Carter would do the right thing because he is an EX-Marine.. what happened? Did honor and his oath get flushed on the way to the bench?

I went back and read some of Carter’s words and was stunned by his lack of knowledge of the Constitution or even a basic understanding of what is really going on here.

(Excerpt) Read more at americangrandjury.org ...


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KEYWORDS: americangrandjury; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; judgecarter; kenyanusurper; obama; orlytaitz
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To: Cicero
Providing proof of birth is a routine matter.

It is if you can.

61 posted on 01/01/2010 10:16:24 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 345 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Not true. You're confusing a situation where a minor is still living in the U.S.A with a minor who has permanently moved to a country outside of the U.S.A. It's xenophobic to assume a U.S. citizen would never renounce their citizenship to become a citizen of the country they are living in. Minors have as much right to pursue citizenship outside of the U.S. as an adult.

A U.S. citizen can renounce their citizenship in favor of citizenship in another country. But they can only do it as an adult. They cannot do it as a minor. Link.

62 posted on 01/01/2010 10:23:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: 1rudeboy; USALiberty

What headlines, where and whose???


63 posted on 01/01/2010 10:27:11 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

The headline at the top of this thread, silly.


64 posted on 01/01/2010 10:28:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: danamco
If you live (permanently ?) in another country you have to follow that country’s laws, NOT U.S. laws!!!

But regardless of where you're living, local laws do not negate U.S. law. If you are born in the U.S. then you are a U.S. citizen, and foreign laws pertaining to dual citizenship cannot change that. Likewise, if you were born in a foreign country and lived in the U.S. then U.S. law could not strip you of your foreign citizenship. A person born in the U.S. can only relinquish their citizenship voluntarily. They cannot have it taken away from them, by U.S. law or foreign law. And they can only relinquish it as an adult through a deliberate act on their part.

65 posted on 01/01/2010 10:29:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: seekthetruth; The Man; STARWISE; LucyT; Brytani; Rafterman; katiekins1; BP2; rodguy911; ...
But please stop crying about a judge who did his job and followed the law.

See post 17???

66 posted on 01/01/2010 10:33:09 AM PST by danamco
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To: null and void

Hey it’s only New Years day!!!


67 posted on 01/01/2010 10:40:22 AM PST by danamco
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To: STARWISE
"Don't think we're not keeping score, brother." That's what President Barack Obama said to Rep. Peter DeFazio in a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus last week, according to the Associated Press.

And don't think "We're" not also keeping score of those that have aided and abetted a cheap hustler's usurpation of the executive office of President of the United States.

A pox on their house!

STE=Q

68 posted on 01/01/2010 10:41:14 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: danamco

Yup ... it’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery,
inside an enigma, as Winston Churchill said.


69 posted on 01/01/2010 10:42:21 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: brityank

His crime/fraud is no different than that of Madoff, ‘nuf said!!!


70 posted on 01/01/2010 10:43:13 AM PST by danamco
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To: Non-Sequitur

If you immigrate to a foreign country, whether minor or not, you have to follow that country’s supreme laws, NOT the laws of the U.S. Period!!!


71 posted on 01/01/2010 10:59:22 AM PST by danamco
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To: Non-Sequitur; SvenMagnussen
Likewise, if you were born in a foreign country and lived in the U.S. then U.S. law could not strip you of your foreign citizenship.

How do YOU know that???

This statement ought/needs to be filed in F.R.'s Hall of Shame, LOL!!!

72 posted on 01/01/2010 11:07:04 AM PST by danamco
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To: USALiberty

Even Congress is in on this treason.


73 posted on 01/01/2010 11:11:29 AM PST by Waco (Never have so many strove so hard to commit treason.)
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To: Cicero
“Exactly. All he had to do was require that Obama make his birth information available to the court. If Obama denies that the Kenyan birth certificate is legitimate, then he can prove it by providing his Hawaiian birth records to the court.

“That is not unreasonable. It would be required in almost any situation where the facts are in question. For example, Obama’s birth records were provided to the divorce court judge when his mother divorced his father, although they have since mysteriously disappeared from the divorce file.”

We don't know what the missing page is from the Dunham-Obama divorce file. In HI, marriage records are protected from public disclosure, so the missing page could have been the Dunham-Obama marriage record. Subsequently HI has disclosed that a “vital record index” for the marriage exists, so it might have been the missing page. It also could be Barry's vital record of birth, also disclosed to exist, but not released by HI.

Unfortunately, under the Federal Rules of Evidence (FRE), a COLB short form, such as the one with minimal information (lack of location, hospital and doctor) that the Obama campaign gave to Factcheck, if submitted to Judge Carter would have been legally “self-authenticating” and sufficient to prove Obama’s HI birth, absent legally admissible rebuttal evidence.

Unfortunately, under the FRE, as a foreign BC, Smith's Kenya BC for Obama is not “self-authenticating”. Thus it required official authentication from Kenya which was not put before Judge Carter by Taitz.

Bottom line, an HI COLB will get into evidence under the FRE in any federal court and be accepted on its face as proof of HI birth unless refuted, while a Kenya BC without official Kenya government authentication cannot refute an HI COLB, cannot be relied on by a federal court judge and won't raise a requirement that it be refuted by Obama.

Transparency is electing to release documents that one is entitled to withhold in the interest of removing any appearance of improper or illegitimate action. Obama is shamelessly violating his promise of transparency as he declassifies and releases formerly top secret docs going back decades while refusing to release his own original HI vital records just because he is entitled to.

74 posted on 01/01/2010 12:04:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: danamco
I agree with you that Obama committed fraud on the American people but I believe the only way he will be removed from office is through impeachment once the truth comes out.

I have great confidence in Leo and Steve and believe they will be successful in defending our constitution and the rights of the Chrysler Dealers. It is just a matter of time and the usurper will be removed from office. :)

In the meantime we all need to work together at our state level to support and vote for constitutional conservative candidates who are running for Congress!

75 posted on 01/01/2010 12:06:39 PM PST by seekthetruth (MY PRAYER EVERY DAY OF 2010---- PSALM 109:8)
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To: All

JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded


76 posted on 01/01/2010 12:09:42 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: USALiberty

The Question is: Can someone who is not a Natural Born Citizen be President of the United States?

Can I have your answers please?


77 posted on 01/01/2010 12:21:50 PM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: null and void
Don’t step in the troll...

Step on to squash the rat trolls...

78 posted on 01/01/2010 12:23:35 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: The Man
To slander this judge by calling him drunk and not knowing what he was doing is something that reflects poorly on the attempts to get to the truth of Barack Obama’s true origins.

It just shows that Orly Taitz isn't the only damned-fool whackadoodle out there.

79 posted on 01/01/2010 12:25:43 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Red Steel

Hmmmmm...not too many rat trolls on this thread yet. They must be still too drunk from last night.


80 posted on 01/01/2010 12:28:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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