statistics on the operating system
visiting my freep page...
So there are a fair number of Mac users
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Posted on 12/27/2009 7:24:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
Mac clone maker defends Rebel EFI, likens it to 'reading a book in the bathroom'
Mac clone maker Psystar last week indefinitely suspended sales of its only product, a $50 utility that lets customers install Apple's Snow Leopard operating system on generic Intel-based computers.
The company also said it would resume selling systems "in the coming days." Those machines will run Linux rather than Mac OS X.
Psystar, which began selling Mac clones in April 2008, has been battling Apple in federal court in California since July 2008, when Apple sued the Doral, Fla. firm, saying it violated copyright laws by preinstalling the Mac operating system on its machines.
Sales of Rebel EFI, which Psystar launched in October, have been "voluntarily suspended" while the company seeks clarification from the courts about whether the software is legal, Psystar said in a Dec. 22 statement. "Psystar feels it would be prudent to halt the sale of Rebel EFI while we explicitly ask the court for clarification on the legality of Rebel EFI."
(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...
And the laughs keep on coming... ping!
Cool tool! Available anywhere on Torrent?
I agree completely. Good luck to them and frac Apple.
A contract is a contract
The purchase contract on OS 10.6 is quite clear on
Use on non-approved hardware and also
modification of the Core OS to do so.
Psystar is, of course, welcome to build units using
legal copies of an operating system
or to write their own.
The Court was quite clear as to the law structure
If you do not like Apple, don't use their machines
Do not blame Apple for defending the contract
protecting the end use of their OS.
If you do not like it, don't buy it
That is your business
Yup
http://www.torrentdownloads.net/searches/Rebel%20efi
Just remember that FreeRepublic is generally lawful
So....
> I agree completely.
You're welcome to do so, but you're agreeing with somebody who is in the wrong, legally speaking. (Not morally or philosophically, mind you.)
When you buy a license to use OS-X as prescribed in the License Agreement, and you agree to follow the License Agreement, you do not own the software. It is NOT your software. How freaking hard is that to comprehend?
There are lots of good operating systems out there besides OS-X -- Linux and Windows come to mind. If you don't like the OS-X license, don't buy OS-X. How freaking hard is THAT to comprehend?
> Good luck to them and frac Apple.
Dude, they're toast. Apple is cruising along at higher altitudes every week. Psystar was pissing on the boot of a giant, and facing into the wind as well. This was suicide by cop, software license style.
PRECISELY.
No one reads this "contract" like they are buying a home when they buy a laptop or cd-rom.
Do not blame Apple for defending the contract
I don't blame Apple. I a hoping the Court invalidates their contract and allows people freedom to use an OS they have purchased on any hardware they choose.
Psystar is not an end user
not a unknowing consumer
it is a business, making money
off of other peoples intellectual property
it apparently has plenty of Lawyers
who are quite adept at Contract law
I have no tolerance for this approach
to circumventing contract law
Just don't use the software
if you do not like the contract
No one is sticking a gun to your head
As above, an Apple customer does not "purchase the OS". They purchase a license to use the OS in a prescribed manner. Please try to get that distinction. Meanwhile...
I infer that you like OS-X, enough to want to use it.
Apple's Mac business model is selling SYSTEMS. They make their money on the hardware, not the software. They cannot stay in business selling only their software.
Do you realize that if you get your wish, Apple will go out of business, and OS-X will cease to be supported or developed? Why would you want this to happen?
This has been discussed on scores of Mac threads over the past years on FR. The fact that Apple is basically a hardware company is acknowledged by all, and the fact that they cannot survive on selling OS-X is likewise acknowledged by all. So when you say you want them to sell their software independent of their hardware, you're either being exceptionally dense or you're lying about your motives.
If you like OS-X, buy a Mac from Apple. If you don't like OS-X enough to do that, then get Linux or Windows or something else. There are lots of good choices out there.
If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.
Why they don’t just build machines & sell them without an OS is beyond me. That would be legal & make them a lot of money in the long run, I think.
The argument Psystar tried to use about installing the software on whatever they wished after they purchased a copy to then SELL, just never made sense to me. I’m just a guitar player & never a lawyer...but that was just insanity crying out for treatment, IMO.
Psystar Temporarily Halts Sale of Rebel EFI
December 22, 2009Psystar has voluntarily suspended the sale of our Rebel EFI software product. Psystar feels it would be prudent to halt the sale of Rebel EFI while we explicitly ask the court for clarification on the legality of Rebel EFI. Our patience has been tested but our resolve is unwavering. Psystar's vision of bringing the Mac OS to generic PC hardware is and always will be unyielding. Although Rebel EFI may be temporarily unavailable for purchase on the Psystar online store, those who purchase a t-shirt or donate over twenty dollars will receive one free copy of Rebel EFI once the court has ruled in our favor on this issue.
We respectfully disagree with courts notion that we are "hardcore copyright infringers". Psystar has never, and will never, condone software piracy. It's your software, you should be able to use it where you want to. If you purchase an off-the-shelf copy of OS X Snow Leopard, its your right to use that software. A publisher cannot forbid you from reading a book in the bathroom or listening to a music disc while riding your bicycle. There should be no difference in the software realm, no matter how much money Apple or anyone else throws at it. That is the real issue here and what we have always been fighting for.
Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period. Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty. Rebel EFI support for existing customers, as always, will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface.
Earlier this month, Psystar discontinued the sale of all its computer systems. In the coming days, we will again be offering complete systems but at discounted prices as they will be bundled with your choice of Linux operating system. In addition to using only first quality components, our hardware specifically chosen such that it is known to be compatible with OS X (via Apples own drivers or open source offerings online). This makes it easier to get up and running with your favorite XNU based operating system, including Pure Darwin.
Also worth mentioning are new flavors of our wildly popular Rebel EFI software product (pending court for release). These include editions tailored to specific off the shelf hardware including the Dell 9 Mini and HP Mini netbooks. In the interim, please keep up to date with Psystar's open source offerings @ https://foundry.psystar.com . Note, those who qualify for a free copy of Rebel EFI will be able to choose one of these new offerings.
Any and all information regarding Rebel EFI, future software products and all other things Psystar should be directed to press@psystar.com or legal@psystar.com.
I think it should be noted that the Rebel EFI was included in Judge Alsup's injunction absent any proof that it should not be. Their claim that they "voluntarily" have stopped selling it is disingenuous. The following quote is in particular egregious in that the court WARNED them about "contributory infringement" by inducing others to infringe Apple's copyrights.
"Also worth mentioning are new flavors of our wildly popular Rebel EFI software product (pending court for release). These include editions tailored to specific off the shelf hardware including the Dell 9 Mini and HP Mini netbooks. In the interim, please keep up to date with Psystar's open source offerings @ https://foundry.psystar.com . Note, those who qualify for a free copy of Rebel EFI will be able to choose one of these new offerings."
It looks to me as if that is exactly what Psystar is doing in this chimera paragraph: inducing others to attempt to install OS X on netbooks or other hardware—contributory infringement, "C'mon, kids, it's OK, it won't hurt you."— by dangling the Rebel EFI's supposed ability to do that which the judge has issued a permanent injunction against Psystar doing. Are they not thumbing their noses at the power of the court?
In addition, Psystar has placed all of the source code for the components of the Rebel EFI on the companion website... distributing it without sale (which is a distinction without a difference, more thumbing of their noses at the judge)... merely requiring compiling to reconstruct the same thing. These guys are pushing chaos in law.
Finally, here are their offerings on their website:
The site drips disrespect for the law.
Sure would like to know where Psystar getting their legal advice from. Reminds me of the movie where patients in a psych ward suddenly became advertising geniuses till it all went wrong on them.
Just plain weird to me.
Not all computers can run Windows or OS X. Macs used to run on PowerPC chips which were incompatible with Windows, so there was no way of directly running Windows on Macs, or Mac OS on PCs. And Apple recently bought a chip design house, suggesting the possibility that future Macs might be built with proprietary chips in them which would defeat Rebel-style software in the future. Is that what you desire that Apple be required to do in order to maintain its ability to upgrade OS X without defaulting into the Microsoft business model of making commodity software?Or do you think that Apple should be required to make OS X work on your own computer, no matter what chips you used to put it together?
The brothers behind Psystar will be back. You pay for OSX you should be able to do what you please with it. So far Apple has slid by with dubious court rulings that it can include in the OSX license that it must be installed on Apples rip off priced hardware
This is known as the hardware tax
One day the Jesse Jobs gang will get smacked down in court and you will be able to legally install OSX on whatever you please...After all you paid for it and won it
Should I assume that Windows Vista and 7 show up as NT? Or is this graph several years old?
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