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New Orleans, Much of Southern Florida, Expected to Be Permanently Submerged (Global Warming)
Science Daily ^ | 12-18-2009

Posted on 12/18/2009 9:19:42 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Earth's Polar Ice Sheets Vulnerable to Even Moderate Global Warming; New Orleans, Much of Southern Florida, Expected to Be Permanently Submerged

ScienceDaily (Dec. 18, 2009) — A new analysis of the geological record of the Earth's sea level, carried out by scientists at Princeton and Harvard universities and published in the Dec. 16 issue of Nature, employs a novel statistical approach that reveals the planet's polar ice sheets are vulnerable to large-scale melting even under moderate global warming scenarios. Such melting would lead to a large and relatively rapid rise in global sea level.

According to the analysis, an additional 2 degrees of global warming could commit the planet to 6 to 9 meters (20 to 30 feet) of long-term sea level rise. This rise would inundate low-lying coastal areas where hundreds of millions of people now reside. It would permanently submerge New Orleans and other parts of southern Louisiana, much of southern Florida and other parts of the U.S. East Coast, much of Bangladesh, and most of the Netherlands, unless unprecedented and expensive coastal protection were undertaken. And while the researchers' findings indicate that such a rise would likely take centuries to complete, if emissions of greenhouse gases are not abated, the planet could be committed during this century to a level of warming sufficient to trigger this outcome.

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To: GonzoGOP
...Either that or just tear down the city and put in a swamp. Heck the mosquitoes are blood sucking parasites so you won't notice much of a change from the current population.

Laugh of the day! Thank you!

61 posted on 12/18/2009 10:26:28 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: My Favorite Headache

“New Orleans, Much of Southern Florida, Expected to Be Permanently Submerged”

They’re saying this like its a bad thing ;’)


62 posted on 12/18/2009 10:27:25 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: My Favorite Headache

If we can get CA underwater too, I’m all for it!


63 posted on 12/18/2009 10:32:03 AM PST by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

These people who don’t believe in THE HOLY and RIGHTEOUS GOD are doomed to come up with pagan foolishness.
See here what God has to say about this.

Proverbs 8:22-31 especially verses 28 & 29

22. “The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old.
23. “From everlasting I was established,
From the beginning, from the earliest times of the earth.
24. “When there were no depths I was brought forth,
When there were no springs abounding with water.
25. “Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth;
26. While He had not yet made the earth and the fields,
Nor the first dust of the world.
27. “When He established the heavens, I was there,
When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,
28. When He made firm the skies above,
When the springs of the deep became fixed,
29. When He set for the sea its boundary
So that the water would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
30. Then I was beside Him, as a master workman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,
31. Rejoicing in the world, His earth,
And having my delight in the sons of men.

Psalm 104:5-9

5. He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not [a]totter forever and ever.
6. You covered it with the deep as with a garment;
The waters were standing above the mountains.
7. At Your rebuke they fled,
At the sound of Your thunder they hurried away.
8. The mountains rose; the valleys sank down
To the)place which You established for them.
9. You set a boundary that they may not pass over,
So that they will not return to cover the earth.

Job 38:4-11

4. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding,
5. Who set its measurements? Since you know.
Or who stretched the line on it?
6. “On what were its bases sunk?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
7When the morning stars sang together
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8. “Or who enclosed the sea with doors
When, bursting forth, it went out from the womb;
9. When I made a cloud its garment
And thick darkness its swaddling band,
10. And I placed boundaries on it
And set a bolt and doors,
11. And I said, ‘Thus far you shall come, but no farther;
And here shall your proud waves stop’?

Jeremiah 5:20-26

20. “Declare this in the house of Jacob
And proclaim it in Judah, saying,
21. ‘Now hear this, O foolish and senseless people,
Who have eyes but do not see;
Who have ears but do not hear.
22. ‘Do you not fear Me?’ declares the LORD
‘Do you not tremble in My presence?
For I have placed the sand as a boundary for the sea,
An eternal decree, so it cannot cross over it.
Though the waves toss, yet they cannot prevail;
Though they roar, yet they cannot cross over it.
23. ‘But this people has a stubborn and rebellious heart;
They have turned aside and departed.
24. ‘They do not say in their heart,
“Let us now fear the LORD our God,
Who gives rain in its season,
Both the autumn rain and the spring rain,
Who keeps for us
The appointed weeks of the harvest.”
25. ‘Your iniquities have turned these away,
And your sins have withheld good from you.
26. ‘For wicked men are found among My people,
They watch like fowlers lying in wait;
They set a trap,
They catch men.

Trusting The Lord Jesus Christ’s virgin birth, perfect life, atoning death for our sins, burial in the tomb,
rising on the 3rd day, ascending into heaven and sitting at the right hand of the Lord God Almighty to judge the quick and the dead.....
will keep the pagans from this nonsense.


64 posted on 12/18/2009 10:35:44 AM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: HIDEK6

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

The sea level would only change if there was a VERY substantial amount of the ice that was perched on land.

Sea ice melting adds NO volume - its displacement is part of the sea level. Try filling a glass with ice and water. When the ice melts, compare the level. It will be the same or less, as you have already noted. This nonsense about a catastrophic rise of the sea because an ice shelf broke up is garbage. Ice hazard to shipping? Sure. But it won’t raise sea levels by a centimeter.

What I want to know though, is where will the water’s NEW edge be? I want to buy property there. Oceanfront property in waiting. Show us the inundation map!


65 posted on 12/18/2009 10:40:33 AM PST by SargeK
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To: DocRock
How does polar ice melting create higher fluid (sea) levels?

Pack ice won't, nor will any ice floating on the sea, but glaicers on land can because the water trapped in them is not supported by displacement of seawater, but by the land the water would run off of to contribute to a rise in sea level.

That said, where I sit now in ND once had a kilometer thick ice sheet over it, and I, for one, would rather not have to shovel that off of my sidewalks...

66 posted on 12/18/2009 10:43:44 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: HIDEK6

Only for the part that is already underwater (most of the North Pole). The part above land would seemingly rush into the ocean. Of course, gw believers never bother to account for the water uptake of any plants that might thrive in that region when the permafrost melts. Only ridiculous dooms day prophecies get any government funding from the mental midgets in DC.


67 posted on 12/18/2009 11:09:29 AM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: My Favorite Headache; SolitaryMan; rdl6989; Darnright; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

68 posted on 12/18/2009 11:15:01 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Rocky
Can we melt enough ice to put Washinton, D.C., under water?

No, but we can build dykes and start pumping water in.

69 posted on 12/18/2009 11:31:18 AM PST by gundog (A republic...if you can keep it.)
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To: SargeK

Present-day oceanfront property will do just fine, if you know how to market it in the future.

You can say, “Seafront property. Magnificent 360 degree ocean view.”


70 posted on 12/18/2009 11:46:16 AM PST by Erasmus (She was a BBC newsreader, marrying above her station.)
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To: HIDEK6
You went to a public school, didn't you?

OK, one more time, THE REASON ICE FLOATS is because water expands when it freezes. Thus, the amount of water ice displaces weighs LESS than the ice.

Mr Wizard experiment: Fill a glass with ice cubes. Fill it with water to the brim. Let it melt. No change in level. {The water on the counter is condensation from the outside of the glass.)

Albore is telling you that he is hoping the ice on Greenland and the Antarctic land masses will melt by 2014, so he can avoid living under a bridge when he gets out of jail for fraud.

Based on your experiment, what are his chances?

71 posted on 12/18/2009 11:47:17 AM PST by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Duh. Heavily populated and built-up areas that sink.

Add Venice, Italy and a few other places that have been subsiding for centuries. That's what causes an apparent "sea level rise", not gorebullwarming.

72 posted on 12/18/2009 11:49:00 AM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I used to live in Kenner, not far from New Orleans and every single time it rained in the 80s it would flood. Not Katrina levels but certainly enough to keep you from going to work unless you had one of those Bigfoot trucks. We managed just fine.


73 posted on 12/18/2009 11:50:50 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Erasmus

LOVE it!


74 posted on 12/18/2009 11:54:18 AM PST by SargeK
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To: gundog
"No, but we can build dykes and start pumping water in."

Aren't there enough?... Ummm. Nevermind.

75 posted on 12/18/2009 11:58:15 AM PST by SargeK
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To: My Favorite Headache
And while the researchers' findings indicate that such a rise would likely take centuries to complete, if emissions of greenhouse gases are not abated, the planet could be committed during this century to a level of warming sufficient to trigger this outcome.

Why I am concerned about what happens to a city hundreds of years into the future? Again, it bears repeating, the climate and geography of the planet are in constant flux. Nothing is permanent, not us, not our civilization, not the planet itself. If I'm going to worry about what will happen to New Orleans hundreds of years from now, I might as well stay up at night worrying about how to keep the sun from turning into a red giant or about cosmic gamma ray jets.

76 posted on 12/18/2009 12:01:54 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: SargeK
I don't think that even Janet Napolitano can retain enough water to drown all the rats in DC. :)
77 posted on 12/18/2009 12:08:48 PM PST by gundog (A republic...if you can keep it.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

If this was guaranteed, and if they would throw in San Francisco, it would be tempting enough for me to go out and buy a Hummer limosine and let my home air conditioner run all winter long.


78 posted on 12/18/2009 12:25:15 PM PST by earlJam
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To: My Favorite Headache

Hell according to ice core samples, Greenland has seen numerous shifts in temperatures over the past 100,000 years and it’s been much warmer back in the middle ages than it is now.

Global warming my a$$...... More like Gore-bull warming so he and his cronies can make billions off of the useful idiots that they swindle.


79 posted on 12/18/2009 12:50:52 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Hoodat

Just like it would in a glass full of ice and water. Let the ice melt and there wouldn’t be an overflow. That’s the earth in miniture. Albore and his fellow cultists are idiots to think otherwise.


80 posted on 12/18/2009 1:03:55 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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