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Apple, Adobe, Microsoft, others sued for patent infringement
The Loop ^ | DECEMBER 14, 2009, 6:28 PM PT | By Jim Dalrymple

Posted on 12/15/2009 12:34:24 PM PST by Swordmaker

BetaNet on Monday filed a lawsuit against 18 companies, including Apple, Adobe and Microsoft.

Filed in the Eastern District of Texas, Marshall Division, the lawsuit claims the companies violate the ‘134 patent, entitled “Secure System for Activating Personal Computer Software at Remote Locations.” The patent was issued on June 22, 1993, according to the lawsuit.

BetaNet specifically mentions Apple’s iTunes, Aperture, QuickTime and MobileMe as infringing on its patent.

The lawsuit describes Apple’s violation like this: “The program file contains a first executive control program, representing a limited version of the program file. License transaction information is entered in the registration shell portion, and that information is transmitted from the registration shell to a separate registration program provided in a registration computer. The registration program merges the license transaction information with a second executive control program – representing a complete version of the program file – to generate a unique overlay file. The unique overlay file is transmitted from the registration program to the registration shell, and contains the second executive control program. The overlay file is installed in the main program file, thereby allowing complete operation of the program file.”

Companies named in the lawsuit include Adobe; Apple; Arial Software; Autodesk; Carbonite; Corel; Eastman Kodak Co; International Business Machines Corp; Intuit; Microsoft; McAfee; Online Holdings; Oracle; Rockwell Automation; Rosetta Stone; SAP America; Siemens; and Sony Creative Software.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: patenttroll; rocketdocket
18 companies. Oh my. Looks to me as if this patent might be a lot obvious...
1 posted on 12/15/2009 12:34:26 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

Patent lawyer fishing for a big payoff.


2 posted on 12/15/2009 12:39:11 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Swordmaker
Sounds like they lay in wait until the 17-year patent life was about to expire so as to catch as many fish in the net as possible.

Seems to me there ought to be an adverse-possession aspect to a patent... if you don't enforce it early and often, you lose it.

3 posted on 12/15/2009 12:42:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Swordmaker
Eastern District of Texas is notorious. Probably a patent troll.
4 posted on 12/15/2009 12:42:42 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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5 posted on 12/15/2009 12:42:56 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Apple and 17 other tech companies sued in East Texas Rocket Docket Court for infringing 1993 software registration patent PING!


Rocket Docket Patent Suit Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

6 posted on 12/15/2009 12:47:38 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I fear that one of these days I’m going to be named in a patent lawsuit because of the procedure I use for cooking my scrambled eggs in the morning... LOL...

I’ll have to admit that I’ll probably have no defense... :-)


7 posted on 12/15/2009 12:52:55 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Seems to me there ought to be an adverse-possession aspect to a patent... if you don't enforce it early and often, you lose it.

I agree. Or at least issue a cease-and-desist within 180 days of knowing of the actions you consider infringement, so the "infringing" company knows that's how you view it and can act accordingly.

8 posted on 12/15/2009 1:11:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Star Traveler

Cook them over easy and serve on a split biscuit.

Then I will sue you for patent infringement:)


9 posted on 12/15/2009 1:19:35 PM PST by sticker
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To: sticker

hoo-boy! :-)


10 posted on 12/15/2009 1:21:54 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: colorado tanker

It’s getting so that now I automatically think “patent troll” if it’s from the Eastern District of Texas.


11 posted on 12/15/2009 2:11:22 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker

Shouldn’t be too hard to find “prior art” for this concept, predating 1993.


12 posted on 12/15/2009 2:19:10 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
You can say that again.
13 posted on 12/15/2009 3:54:28 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: Swordmaker
Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes
14 posted on 12/15/2009 3:56:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Patent Troll...Adverse Possession.

The simple truth is a lot of small people come up with good and useful ideas, while a lot of big Companies ignore and often outright steal the ideas and creations of small people.

I listened to a Corporate lawyer laughing once. He made it clear to creditors if they sued his company he did not even have to talk to them for the year or so once the suit was filed before court action would begin.. The same would be true for a small patent holder.

I watched a Major Defense Contractor IMO Flat Out Steal the Air Defense Creation of a Few young Soldiers and NCOs up at Ft Lewis Washington.. The Soldiers doing their job needed a way to track incoming enemy aircraft down to the individual MANPADS level

http://www.fas.org/irp/dia/manpads_components.pdf

Like good Americans, like the Sgt who created the hedgerow cutter for US Tanks in WWII.. they devised a simple yet robust system on their own. They built it from what they had on hand and put it into use with the support of their Officers.

The Corporation then IMO literally stole the whole concept developing and offering the system back to the US Army for big bucks.. The Soldiers were told since they were in the Army when they created it.. The idea did not belong to them but somehow it did belong to the Corporation.

Only because NCOs and Officers raised hell about the crooked nature of the Defense Contractors Actions (Though technically legal) did the Company even give the young Soldiers some modest sized checks for their creation..

So this is a two way street... These big companies with Lawyers on staff can fight off legitimate claims for years.

Walk in with your patent in hand and their legal staff will laugh you out of their offices.

Ask yourself: If you create a nice widget how long could you pay Lawyers at $250 an hour.. to defend your creation against a Bill Gates who makes $10k+ everytime you blink 24/7 365 days a year. Now think of some Corporation who profits much more than that.

The “Patent Troll” Lawyers are little different agreed. More like just another lobby of Pirates and the actual process creater may get little to nothing.

Of course there are times when some processes are obvious and probably should not be patentable.. the problem is that big Corporations will do the same thing once they secure the Patent from the little guy.. Defend the process blocking everbody else from using it without their permission.

No good solution yet I can see

Just not a one sided affair thats all..

W


15 posted on 12/16/2009 3:40:26 AM PST by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: WLR
Patents for physical objects are great.

Software patents are BS. They didn't used to be allowed, but ever since the patent office was taken over by affirmative-action types who know nothing, anything could happen.

My only point.

16 posted on 12/16/2009 5:51:42 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Swordmaker

They selectively left off several other publishers that also use similar technology.


17 posted on 12/16/2009 7:39:56 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think you mean there are certain process/pieces of code which should not be patentable.. Actual Software..If your the guys that created “HALO” I think you should be the only folks to own the rights to market it.

This case I think is about someone grabbing a bit of code and or process developed by someone else and sticking it in their Software... Thats tougher it get;s dodgey. We would not accept Plagarisim in a book.. so why accept it in code?.. But then again code is sort of like building a house.. using 2X4s there are only so many ways to do frame it it...and I know of no one who claims Patent Right of the Framing of a House.. (I wonder if some one did long ago?)

Respectfully Confused on the issue lol

W


18 posted on 12/16/2009 8:01:01 PM PST by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: WLR
Softare is copyrighted.

No problem with that.

It's when people are allowed to patent algorithms that the excitement begins.

If you're going to allow algorithms to be patented, then why not mathematics.

The first guy with a patent gets to collect a royalty for anybody who uses the Pythagorean Theorem!

19 posted on 12/16/2009 8:03:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We are in agreement just took some time to get there.. Your analogy is better than mine by far and makes the point..

Repects

W


20 posted on 12/16/2009 8:23:59 PM PST by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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