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Green: Appreciating Kurt Warner (Cards look to clinch)
KTAR ^ | 12/11/09 | Adam Green

Posted on 12/14/2009 2:48:18 PM PST by pissant

It's said that we have trouble appreciating what we have until it is gone.

Well, it took me a while, but I've come to appreciate Kurt Warner and what he brings to the Arizona Cardinals.

Don't get me wrong - I never disliked the guy. I knew he was a great QB and an even better person off the field. But, I didn't think he could get the team to a Super Bowl and thus, I saw no point in continuing forward with the aging veteran instead of trying to find a younger, long-term replacement.

Aside from the fact that I was wrong about the Super Bowl, where I really messed up was failing to understand - and enjoy - what the Cardinals had at the QB position.

What the Cardinals have is one of the all-time greats, a player who (along with Ken Whisenhunt) is directly responsible for the team's transformation from a laughingstock to Super Bowl contender.

Over the last four games Warner has done something only the legendary Johnny Unitas did before, and that's have a QB rating over 120 in four straight games. Now, I'm not going to sit here and try to explain the QB rating system since it is as convoluted as the BCS computer but I will tell you that, having watched each game, Warner is playing as good as any QB in league, and probably as good as any QB can possibly play.

Over the four games: 261 yards and five touchdowns. 340 yards and two touchdowns. 203 yards and two touchdowns (in one half of football). 285 yards and three touchdowns.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: arizonacardinals; kurtwarner

1 posted on 12/14/2009 2:48:23 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

I’ve thought he had what it took to get to the Superbowl back when he played with the Rams.


2 posted on 12/14/2009 2:52:56 PM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: GeronL

I guess this author didn’t remember when the Rams were the best team in the NFL with Warner.


3 posted on 12/14/2009 2:53:57 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Kurt is like Brett, writ a bit smaller.

When he is on his game, he is unstoppable and he clearly loves the game and has that required learn-and-move-on memory that great QBs have.

But he tends to drop into tendencies and those tendancies are read by defenses and used against him. That is why he was pick-city the hear after his SB.

I also like the guy and hope does well. But this year, “pretty darn good” isn’t going very deep into the playoffs (as it did year before last).


4 posted on 12/14/2009 2:55:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: pissant

That whole season was a Disney movie and yet he missed it. weird.


5 posted on 12/14/2009 2:55:45 PM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: pissant

God bless him and he and his wife are generous with their time and money. He is a blessing to many.


6 posted on 12/14/2009 2:57:00 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: pissant
I was at the Rams-Cardinals game a few weeks ago when Warner left early with a concussion. After ringing up 21 points in the first half, the Cardinals with Leinart in the 2nd half could do nothing.

And maybe they changed their play calling with the lead, but it's clear that the Cardinals are a much different team with Warner at the helm.

Hard to say where he fits in with the others all-time, but he is clearly one of the best of our era.

7 posted on 12/14/2009 2:57:23 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: GeronL

Oh noooooo! My Niners will be left out in the cold by Kurt tonight!


8 posted on 12/14/2009 2:57:53 PM PST by Justaham
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To: pissant

Was speaking to a former pro player not too long ago about how much faster Pro is vs.College. Kurt makes is look easy compared to Matt.


9 posted on 12/14/2009 3:01:43 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: GeronL

Well there’s a difference between getting that version of the Rams to the SB and getting any version of the Cards (which prior to last year had 2 playoff victories in the entire 80+ year history of the franchise) to the SB.


10 posted on 12/14/2009 3:01:49 PM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: discostu

I agree completely. The Cards were the LA Clippers of the NFL, and nothing seemed to ever improve. I also agree with the comments that when he is hot, there is no one better-—not Manning, not Brees. But he can get into tendencies that can cost him, unfortunately, as I HATE the Steelers.


11 posted on 12/14/2009 3:47:42 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
Hard to say where he fits in with the others all-time, but he is clearly one of the best of our era.

He's HOF material, in the Phil Simms or Jim Plunkett sense. He's not one of the all-time greats.

12 posted on 12/14/2009 4:14:42 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I would say he is top 15 QB of all time, clearly a HOF player.....Cards will be in for it tonight though, I think they blew their wad last week. Just a feelin’


13 posted on 12/14/2009 4:52:58 PM PST by runninglips (Lame-stream media, ignoring the stories that are too important to cover)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

God bless him and he and his wife are generous with their time and money. He is a blessing to many.

One of the nicest people I have ever met. They have been blessed for how they live their lives. Met them in a Red Robin in Chesterfield MO right after he had surgery on this hand. I hated to see him go, mainly because the Rams have not had a QB yet.


14 posted on 12/14/2009 5:15:19 PM PST by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: LS

It’s like they saw this discussion before the game last night and decided to prove us right. Holy crow the Cards stunk it up. 7 turn overs, 4 sacks allowed, 11 accepted penalties against.


15 posted on 12/15/2009 7:18:33 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: discostu

Ok, given that logic, we need to have a discussion about how the Cowboys will suddenly turn it on, beat the Saints, and make the playoffs. :)


16 posted on 12/15/2009 8:19:57 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I prefer the Cowboys in full fledged meltdown mode. I like that constipated look Jones gets.


17 posted on 12/15/2009 8:21:31 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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