Posted on 12/08/2009 6:29:15 PM PST by Frantzie
A Canadian doctor who used a pioneering 'blood-spinning’ technique to help Tiger Woods recover from his knee surgery will be questioned in court after being charged with three counts of illegally importing and selling drugs.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
I’ve been in athletics my whole life too. I’ve worked out as hard as Tiger Woods or any other top athlete, I’ve also hit over 1000 golf balls a day. I’ve trained athletes and given hundreds of golf lessons. I also know experts in the field of steroids and other PED’s. I know a man who’s consulted the NFL in regards to steroids. My business partner is published in the NEJM on a paper about steroids. I’m talking from a knowledge base, you’re talking out of your butt and you posted a JOKE of a pamphlet. The guy says you should drink a gallon of milk a day and do squats.
If you actually think you can put on 30 pounds of muscle in 6-8 weeks without drugs, you have no idea of what you’re talking about, none, no credibility on the subject whatsoever.
I don’t have lack of faith in working out, I know what’s possible and what’s not, with and without drugs, you obviously don’t. You came to a gun fight with a wet noodle, quit while you’re a million miles behind.
Right....so the media won those 71 tournaments and 14 majors for him...
I've seen a lot of stupid comparisons in my life but this one is probably the dumbest. Obamarx has not literally one single accomplishment in his life while Tiger has worked his ass off to be the greatest golfer in history. For you to say that the two are identical is colossally ignorant.
Ambien..one of Tiger’s drugs..
Complex behaviors such as “sleep-driving” (i.e., driving while not fully awake after ingestion of a sedative-hypnotic, with amnesia for the event) have been reported with sedative-hypnotics, including zolpidem. These events can occur in sedative-hypnotic-naive as well as in sedative-hypnotic-experienced persons. Although behaviors such as “sleep-driving” may occur with Ambien alone at therapeutic doses, the use of alcohol and other CNS depressants with Ambien appears to increase the risk of such behaviors, as does the use of Ambien at doses exceeding the maximum recommended dose. Due to the risk to the patient and the community, discontinuation of Ambien should be strongly considered for patients who report a “sleep-driving” episode.
If you actually think you can put on 30 pounds of muscle in 6-8 weeks without drugs, you have no idea of what you’re talking about, none, no credibility on the subject whatsoever.'
Dude, once again your assuming something you haven't tried. We disagree, if your unwilling try a workout and method, then your unwilling to increase your muscle mass. Give it a shot, seriously, try it for the New Year, 8 weeks.
If you don't put on the weight, I'll contribute to FR in your name. Serious.
Those pictures of Tiger are from when he was 16-18 years old. He's now 33. That's between 15 and 17 years difference which is far more than enough time to bulk up. Google the stories of his training/weight lifting and the impact it had on other players in the PGA Tour.
And this doesn't even address the issue of if steroids would even HELP in golf. Tiger is no longer the longest hitter on Tour. there are plenty that surpass his distance. He got that reputation when he "had spindly arms". Steroids would do nothing to improve putting where he is one of the best in the world.
I answered it here and many times before in my other points.
The drugs will allow to train longer and harder and recover quicker, a huge, huge, advantage. The ability to get the same distance swinging at 80% capacity instead of 90% capacity.
Do you even watch golf? They’re always talking about Tiger’s strength. Tough lie in the rough “OOHHH man, only Tiger has the strength to get down to that ball” “He’s going to muscle this one out of the rough” “Any other guy would take a wedge and just hack this one out, Tiger is going to go with a 6 iron and try and get it to the green, I can’t believe it, WOW he’s strong”
You hear this gushing about Tiger’s strength all the time.
I know lifting weights helped me increase my swing speed and make me a better golfer. Add the weight lifting AND the drugs and he has an advantage over the guys who just lift weights. There’s plenty of guys lifting weights on tour. Tiger is the only guy who looks like he could play in the NFL, oh and by the way those guys in the NFL are on drugs, the ones he looks like.
Hey Tiger fan boy - Rush made the comparison yesterday. It was based on a very good article.
Tiger worked hard but he is a steroid taking pimp daddy who has disgraced golf. Tiger is trash.
I accept your comments. However, commentators at televised events also will note when a squirrel farts.
What about the skill part of the game..putting?
Ambien
Sleep-driving and other complex behaviors
There have been reports of people getting out of bed after taking a sedative-hypnotic and driving their cars while not fully awake, often with no memory of the event. If a patient experiences such an episode, it should be reported to his or her doctor immediately, since “sleep-driving” can be dangerous. This behavior is more likely to occur when Ambien is taken with alcohol or other central nervous system depressants [see WARNINGS and PRECAUTIONS]. Other complex behaviors (e.g., preparing and eating food, making phone calls, or having sex) have been reported in patients who are not fully awake after taking a sedative-hypnotic. As with “sleep-driving”, patients usually do not remember these events
http://www.rxlist.com/ambien-drug.htm
Despite the creative image similarities, there’s a huge difference between Woods and Obama. Woods demands nothing of anyone. All he has done, that I have seen has been impressive. Unlike Obama, I’ve actually had a number of opportunities to observe Woods at close range and the worst thing I’ve seen him do has been to get mildly upset when he wasn’t playing well. And everyone is free to ignore him. Would that it were so with Obama.
Woods is a fallen man. Obama is evil.
Sorry, bro. That pamphlet you posted is a garbage. I’ll say it slowly for you now. You.....can.......not......add.......30.......pounds......of muscle......in 6-8 weeks......without....DRUGS.
What you’re claiming is just impossible, so just stop.
You might as well tell me you can flap your arms really fast and fly, that I should try that too.
I’ve done all kinds of weightlifting, all different methods and theories, worked out enough where I had to eat a MINIMUM of 4000 calories a day. I played basketball in college, did squats, calf raises, had strength shoes, ran with a weighted vest and had thighs like Earl Campbell, and as a 6 foot white man could sneak in the occasional cheap dunk without being able to palm a basketball. My legs were so big that I would cycle off of doing my legs and just run, play basketball and do various jumping exercises.
On those old standard universal machines I would use the max to do leg presses. I know how to add muscle, I also know adding 30 pounds of muscle in 6-8 weeks without drugs is impossible, end of story. Unless we’re talking about a guy who’s 15 feet tall and weighs 900 pounds, maybe.
Those pictures are of Tiger in college, the picture of Barry Bonds are in college.
They were both BEANPOLES who were NEVER, EVER going to add that kind of mass without drugs, no matter how hard they worked.
Drugs would help in many ways, read my posts, I’ve stated it many times just how it would be an advantage.
I never said that drugs would help his putting, so don’t imply that I did.
Tiger DID have Lasik surgery to take his eyesight to 20 -15, though I don’t consider that cheating, I’m sure it helps reading greens.
A lot of stuff is really coming out of the Woods-work.
Norm Clarke of the Las Vegas Review Journal published a lot of stuff about Woods’ Vegas nights. $25,000 per hand blackjack with Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan. Frequent visits to LV nightclubs and leaving with many different women. Checking into hotels with different women. It was all stuff he said he had, but didn’t use.
Now you’re calling me a liar, I told you I’ve lifted weights and been an athlete most of my life. I’ve trained other athletes, became a better than scratch golfer, gave golf lessons and have friends and colleagues who are experts in the field of steroids and drugs and who have worked with the NFL in regards to steroids.
You keep displaying you can’t debate fairly and keep making wild claims about muscle building which are totally and unequivocally untrue. So yes, we disagree, and you’re claiming that I have no experience is lying.
Between fooling around, golf, travel, endorsements, and pretending to be a husband and father, when did he have time to work out?
You’re wrong on both counts, I told you I’ve done all kinds of weightlifting and of course I added muscle, it would be hard not to, but that doesn’t stop you.
Also, there are better methods than high rep squats to add muscle. Are you telling me you followed that POS guide that you posted and drank a gallon of milk every day and did high rep squats and gained 30 pounds of muscle in 8 weeks? HINT: That stupid guide that you googled is NOT the best way to add muscle mass.
Tiger and Jack have always been the best putters of their time and more importantly the best clutch putters. I never said steroids would help him putting. He did have Lasik surgery to take his eyesight to 20-15, I don’t consider that cheating though.
Tiger is the best golfer in the world, I take no issue with that.
What I DO take issue with though is that TIger is the BEST WEIGHTLIFTER in the world too, LOL.
Only the great TIger can add all that muscle mass without drugs, it’s just those other damn cheaters with the same looking NFL body as Tiger that cheated.
Tiger is human, and as we see now, not above cheating. I think he cheats on his sport as well as his wife. I thought he was an obvious user before all this stuff about his personal life came out too. Google Tiger and steroids and look at what a lot of his defenders say. Yes, he’s huge, but TIger has too much integrity, he doesn’t need to cheat, blah, blah, blah.
I would say he didn’t need to cheat, he was great before the “training”, but he did cheat and it’s obvious to me, and many others who know a lot about “training”.
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