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Google Public DNS: Wonderful Freebie or Big New Menace?
PCWorld ^ | December 03, 2009 12:37 PM | David Coursey

Posted on 12/06/2009 11:28:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Today's news can prompt two very different views of Google, based on the announcement of its free Google Public DNS.

In one view, Google is our best friend and a noble public servant. In the other, Google may be the darkest force on the Internet. Which is it? We all must decide.

Here's the news: Today Google has begun offering an experimental, but stable, Public Domain Name Server (DNS), described in a Thursday post to Google's Official Blog.

The goal is for the new DNS to increase browsing speed and improve Internet security. I have read the technical description and believe it to the extent that I have already changed the DNS at my office to point to the new Google Public DNS. It is, however, too early to tell if my browsing has become faster.

DNS is an Internet protocol that acts as both telephone directory and switchboard. It provides for the translation of a URL, such as www.pcworld.com, into the IP address of the server that hosts the site.

When you type a URL into your browser and press the "enter" key, the DNS delivers the IP address back to your browser and the page is displayed. However, a single Web page might include content from a dozen or more different locations, most of which require a DNS lookup.

Because of this, the average Internet user may generate hundreds, even thousands, of DNS "hits" over the course of a single day. As Web pages and the Internet have become more complex, demand for DNS services have expanded exponentially.

(Excerpt) Read more at pcworld.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: google; googledns; googlesearch; googlg
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1 posted on 12/06/2009 11:28:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv

fyi


2 posted on 12/06/2009 11:29:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: ShadowAce

Ping.


3 posted on 12/06/2009 11:30:31 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very easy for a company that doesn’t like a web page to not have it in their DNS lookups.


4 posted on 12/06/2009 11:37:11 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

google can’t help themselves but to engage in their leftist agenda. They’re not the “darkest force on the Internet” but I vote malevolent darkness...


5 posted on 12/06/2009 11:37:56 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This leads to a question that (this old fart)has been trying to find an answer to.

My pc runs on an adapter.
A pc in another room is hooked up to the DSL modem and router.
I have been wanting to try a site called Open DNS but don’t know what will happen if I change my DNS, (On This pc)?

Will that disconnect me from my other pc?

MC


6 posted on 12/06/2009 11:42:24 AM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: plinyelder
It might depend on what and how you are setup on each machine?

Both running Windows?

7 posted on 12/06/2009 11:51:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I would think it's better to use OpenDNS ...


Some thoughts on Google DNS

by David Ulevitch, Founder on Dec 3rd, 2009

Google launched a DNS service today, almost exactly four years after I started OpenDNS. This comes as no surprise as it was only a matter of time before one of the Internet giants realized the strategic importance of DNS. I’ve received a lot of questions from bloggers, journalists, friends and most importantly, our users. And so I want to share my thoughts on what this means for the recursive DNS space and what it means for OpenDNS.

First, it’s not the same as OpenDNS. When you use Google DNS, you are getting the experience they prescribe. When you use OpenDNS, you get the Dashboard controls to manage your experience the way you want for you, your family or your organization. People use OpenDNS because we are pioneers and innovators in the DNS space, offering the most secure recursive DNS service around. We run the largest DNS caches, the fastest resolvers, and we offer the most flexibility in controlling your DNS experience. For example, IT folks want to block malware in the DNS, parents sometimes want to block certain content from kids. All of that and more is possible with our DNS. It is not with Google DNS. Of course, we don’t force those things, we offer them as controls that you manage the way you see fit. Providing people with choice is core to our offerings.

Second, it means that Google realizes that DNS is a critical piece of our Internet’s infrastructure and that it’s of strategic importance to help people safely and reliably navigate the Internet. This is something we’ve championed since day one and will always keep as our primary mission. This is why big enterprise customers are switching to OpenDNS too, not because it’s free but because it’s the best and we add value to DNS and improve the security of their networks.

Third, Google claims that this service is better because it has no ads or redirection. But you have to remember they are also the largest advertising and redirection company on the Internet. To think that Google’s DNS service is for the benefit of the Internet would be naive. They know there is value in controlling more of your Internet experience and I would expect them to explore that fully. And of course, we always have protected user privacy and have never sold our DNS data. Here’s a link to our privacy policy.

Fourth, it means that Google is bringing awareness to a wide audience that there is a choice when it comes to DNS and that users don’t have to settle for what their ISP provides. And we believe that having choice is a good thing — just as Internet users have unbundled their email to services like Gmail, Yahoo! Mail and Hotmail people have been unbundling their DNS and switching to OpenDNS in huge numbers for the last 3+ years because we’re better.

Fifth, it’s not clear that Internet users really want Google to keep control over so much more of their Internet experience than they do already — from Chrome OS at the bottom of the stack to Google Search at the top, it is becoming an end-to-end infrastructure all run by Google, the largest advertising company in the world. I prefer a heterogeneous Internet with lots of parties collaborating to make this thing work as opposed to an Internet run by one big company.

So how will this impact us? It’s too early to tell, but largely I think this is a good thing for us. Google DNS currently offers none of the choice and flexibility that our service does. It’s new and untested. Having said that, it encourages us to keep making our service better. And ultimately, we’re a business that has been growing aggressively since we launched and has been competing in fair markets and winning. It raises awareness about the importance of DNS and it motivates us to continue providing world-class services to a global audience and to keep innovating.

We will continue to do that without distraction from Google or any of the other players in the DNS or security space. But we welcome Google to the neighborhood.

8 posted on 12/06/2009 11:51:49 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: plinyelder

I did that with OpenDNS and had no problem.


9 posted on 12/06/2009 11:53:28 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

to his last point, I say he’s a fool


10 posted on 12/06/2009 11:54:02 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Domandred

So can everyone else, including your ISP.

I’m ambivalent on the proliferation of Google Everything, but their privacy policy for their DNS service is fair. That said, I’m sticking with OpenDNS.


11 posted on 12/06/2009 12:12:19 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: plinyelder

How are you connected to the internet? By “adapter”, do you mean a Network adapter, as in an ethernet card, or a wireless USB adapter, or do you really mean a router?

I’m going to ASSume, that you are connected to your other PC by a router or switch. In which case, your router is what determines the DNS you use, so nothing will be disconnected. But, if you’re connected by a cable using MS internet sharing, then...

As for Open DNS it’s great for internet privacy nuts, like me, especially if you add an anonymous proxy service in the mix.

However, it’s not as reliably fast as my ISP is. The answer, obviously, is to donate a lot more money to OpenDNS so they can buy bigger, better, faster dns servers. LOL


12 posted on 12/06/2009 12:17:16 PM PST by papasmurf
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To: Star Traveler

I don’t think it could have been said better and more professionally.

I will add that WE Conservatives need to remember that a Google board member is one of 0bama’s advisers, and that Google has a “proprietary” agreement with the Federal Government and NASA which gives Google first hand inside information.

How safe do YOU feel with so much info in the hands of one company? One with a co-founder who isn’t of American origin?

Great post, Star Traveler, thank you.


13 posted on 12/06/2009 12:24:28 PM PST by papasmurf
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To: papasmurf

Thanks, and I’ve been using OpenDNS for several years... too... :-)

And, they give you nice warnings on potential fishing pages...


14 posted on 12/06/2009 12:30:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Terpfen; Domandred
You were saying ...

So can everyone else, including your ISP.

And that's a good reason for using OpenDNS... :-)

15 posted on 12/06/2009 12:33:54 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
freerepublic.com NOT FOUND.
drudgereport.com NOT FOUND.
breitbart.com NOT FOUND.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

16 posted on 12/06/2009 12:34:33 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hi Ernest

The other pc is an older windows xp 32BIT while this one is a newer vista 64BIT.


17 posted on 12/06/2009 12:48:38 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Star Traveler

Star Traveler
That’s the site that I want to try.


18 posted on 12/06/2009 12:49:41 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...

FreeRepublic should set up a wonderful freebie DNS — and a search engine. :’) Thanks Ernest.

And, no, I’m not kidding.


19 posted on 12/06/2009 1:12:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Star Traveler

Already using it.


20 posted on 12/06/2009 1:19:36 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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