[MHGinTN]

I sincerely hope the ping list will give this perspective a good FR discussion in the amazing, traditional freeper style. Glenn Beck has been opining that there is something being built but he doesn't know yet what it is. Well, here's a thought in that direction.

[MHGinTN]

PING))))))

[NewJerseyJoe]

P4L

[Nervous Tick]

I’m not a big believer in world order conspiricies. For one thing, they’re hard to organize; for another, they’re even HARDER to keep under wraps.

As for Bambi’s role, my view is “don’t attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity”.

There’s nothing in it for Bambi and the ‘Rats if things COMPLETELY go to hell in a handbasket. That situation will translate to “’Rats out of power” and they don’t want that.

However: in spite of the brave face they’re putting on, I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that they are investigating unthinkable scenarios such as the US defaulting on its debt — in a “what-if” way — with emphasis on “how can we save our political butts and personal fortunes if we were to do that”. They’re still criminal, in my book, but it’s criminally negligent and stupid.

Just my 2c, thanks for the thoughtful post and raising the question.

FRegards

[tgusa]

I just don’t see this total takeover happening here. Try as the banking interests may, there are too many independent-minded souls left in America for this to go through. That said, we have a very rough slog ahead of us for the next few years. Europe? NWO. American? Not so much. Unfortunately, I fear much blood will be spilled.

[RobRoy]

Whenever events seem to be worldwide in impact, I always look for parallels to what I find in Bible prophesy. One thing the Bible is quite clear on: it will get MUCH worse before it gets better.

[PetroniusMaximus]

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:

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God will have the last laugh.

[ßuddaßudd]

bookmarked

[pallis]

America isn’t going to go easily, no matter how well laid the plan. Conservatism in America has been the thorn in world Socialism’s side for years, and it isn’t going away. Even if the Communists in Washington cooperate and follow the plan, there are states that will resist, and there are people who will support those states. I listened to Beck’s Titanic rant, mostly in agreement, but thinking the real life rafts in the US are the states, communities, churches and neighborhoods. The life rafts exist, and we need to get them ready. This country can be saved.

[Noumenon]

I think that your take on this is essentially correct, perhaps not in all the details and motivations - many of whaich we cannot know. I agree with you in that that it is their intention to destroy this country. You cannot rule a free and prosperous people. You must first kill many if not most of them, impoverish the rest and keep them permanently on their knees. So I can reduce the motives and the goal of our would-be minders further to O'Brien's reply to Smith in Orwell's 1984.

Power. Absolute power. This is the goal of the elites who despise us precisely because we are free and not subject to their bidding. Communism, totalitarianism, etc are merely the means to an end. Power is the name of the game. Orwell understood that mentality perfectly:

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.

Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

What pure power means you will understand presently.

We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites.

The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods,but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

Power is not a means; it is an end.

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

The object of persecution is persecution.
The object of torture is torture.
The object of power is power".

-George Orwell - 1984

That's who we're dealing with, and there's only one way this can end. I've revised my Fourth of July 2009 Tea Party Speech to go into a little more detail on this very subject. The problem is that many of our basic premises concerning the nature of jsut whom we're dealing are wrong. We're dealing with monsters, with monsters whose pedigree of ideas encompass the slaughter and impoverishment of hundreds of millions in the last century. They show no sign of stopping in this one. And as I say, there is only ONE way this can end.

[PaleoBob]

Two word solution:

Sarah Palin

(Is it 2012 yet?)