Posted on 11/10/2009 11:39:26 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
Independents and converted Democrats are voters, who in large numbers don't feel represented by the politicians of either major party. Reagan got millions of votes from these groups by presenting a pro-American vision for the USA.
RINOS for the most part are already politicians who wear the Republican label, but have become hopelessly compromised and corrupted, such that by one method or another, bribe or extortion, they are pressured to vote with the Democrats and betray every plank of the Republican platform.
RINOs are the people who vote for anti-American trade agreements to the detriment of the majority of American citizens. They are the ones who vote with the Democrats for un-Constitutional nanny-state laws that violate the rights of every citizen. They are the ones who support open borders when the illegals are displacing millions of citizen workers. They are the ones who support unneeded visa work programs that have displaced millions of citizen workers in high tech and engineering. They are the ones who vote with the Democrats on environmental regulations that push factories overseas and displace millions of citizen workers. They are the ones who vote with the teacher unions to defeat voucher bills. In all their scams, a few of their supporters get filthy rich, while the vast majority of citizens get the shaft.
Romney, Huck, and Pawlenty are all RINOs. Each of them can offer favors to their select few members of the Republican party, but neither of them can unify the party because they have no respect for the Constitution or for the entire population of citizens. To those voters outside their select group, they have to lie to get the votes.
On the other hand, a Constitutional conservative can honestly represent the interests of the whole nation of people, based on the governmental constraints in the Constitution, and supporting the rights to life, liberty, and property of every citizen.
Thanks for explanation. I do see an intermingling of the elected with simply voters so still don’t understand distinct differences. I just say we take votes wherever we can get them.
Lots of voters think they need a "balance" between Republicans and Democrats, between congress and the executive, but that is only true when RINOs are the Republicans in question. The tug-of-war is still between two groups that practice group politics.
A conservative executive and a conservative congress, operating on Constitutional grounds, would be a balanced government. They would not represent special interest groups on either side; they would simply govern according to the Constitution. There is no precedent to use as an example, because this has never happened since the founding, and is unlikely to happen now. But it is the ideal envisioned by the founders.
There are many, many Republicans/conservatives that now believe that that is "compromising principles" and they would immeditately eliminate Reagan because he was not pure enough.
How stupid would that be?
Cheers!
What makes sense is a Primary Day. Where all the states vote their candidate together.
Interesting and I’ve often wondered if that could work? My problem with one day is that the candidates will spend their time in a very few key states and most likely many states will not see them ever set foot within their boundaries. Kinda like the Presidential campaign where they write off certain states, take some for granted and select a few competitive ones and that’s where most of the time and money are spent.
I have even thought about a regional concept three/four primary days where the states for each of the days are selected from across the country such that you have a few smaller states, some middle size and a large one or two, some from the north, south, east and west in each day. If you did three primary days then you could have 16 states in each date.
Book mark for later
While I think you’re being totally irrational, I do like the fact that we have such young conservatives. I hope there are many more like you but with a calmer head.
Stages generally apply as we all grow up and mature. Idealism mixed with zeal slowly for most will turn into realism with patience or for others they will give up in general. jmo.
Don’t you realize that by abandoning your principles you are HELPING destroy the country? Wow.
I'm not as interested in what they believe as I am in what they do...i.e. Pataki backing Hoffman in NY-23.
At some point pragmatism enters the picture or the Democrats win every election from here to eternity.
Conservative politicians must dominate the GOP, and the RINOs must be persuaded to follow their lead.
To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I whole-heartedly agree! and I have been using a person’s view of Sarah as a litmus test myself. It tells me they are a true conservative or not, and knowledgeable about what is at stake or not. It seems an awful lot of people don’t have a clue about what is being done to us and the United States of America! It has weeded out who I associate with and who I do business with.
The Republican Party is the ‘biggest tent’. That is, if it includes anyone who holds to our Constitution, individual liberty and responsibility, a strong national defense, small representative government, free market capitalism, and low taxes. To me, if you don’t want to abide by what our Founders, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution lay out, then go find a country that suits you - don’t change THIS one!
Yes, for the short term. But if the differences are too great, or (typically) if they are pro-choice, they knife conservatives in the back to curry favor with their pro-abortion, pro-death friends.
"If you would sup with the devil, bring a long spoon."
NO cheers, unfortunately.
>>>One thing is for sure, the majority of the Romney and Rudy supporters have been purged from FR.
As this and similar threads illustrate, that dropped the board’s average IQ by about half, leaving the place to be overrun by paulites, birchers, and mouth breathing Luddites going into convulsions every time a flood plain is dug up because it “proves” Noah.
If Palin gets tagged as the crackpot’s godmother she is finished. Sarah deserves better then such bozos, but then don’t we all.
btw, don’t forget while you are purging 80% of the party, be sure to tell the kids to keep off your lawn too. Just to complete the tableau.
Don’t like her flaky ways? Wow. I suspect projection. Why don’t you list her flaky ways and enlighten us.
As I said before, SCREW THE GOP.
You can do what you want.
The way we accomplish that is to give zero to the GOP and what we used to give to the GOP to Palin.
Palin IS the new RNC.
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