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Bad Apple: Five Classic Apple Marketing Tactics That Lock You In
PC World ^ | Nov 3, 2009 6:15 pm | Dan Tynan

Posted on 11/05/2009 10:37:52 AM PST by Swordmaker

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To: canuck_conservative
That is an excellent comment you found.

I feel the same way about Apple. God love 'em, they have found a way to make money. There's nothing wrong with that. Whether I decide to pay more for their products is my choice.

41 posted on 11/05/2009 12:17:36 PM PST by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
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To: La Lydia; All

I like Apple, but I do detest their tight control on things.

It also looks like they finally have found a way to ban jailbreaking of the phone as well.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/173629/new_iphone_3gs_may_be_jailbreakproof.html

With that being the case, I am much more likely to get a Verizon Droid next summer instead of an iPhone like I have been wanting so long. Android is much more open than the iPhone and can do more. The reviews so far are very positive. While the iPhone is cool for its fun games etc. on it, I can get that with an iPod touch. The only part missing would be the phone part or the always-on data, which again....I could get with the Droid on a network that actually works when I go back home in Kansas.

AT&T doesn’t work in Kansas virtually ANYWHERE, only KC and to some degree Wichita.


42 posted on 11/05/2009 12:21:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Terpfen
Spoken like a true engineer, who believes that product quality is directly correlated to a larger bullet point list.

hrmmm... Is it really that obvious ? LOL

43 posted on 11/05/2009 12:22:39 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Swordmaker

They call it a tent; I call it a fortress. And I feel very secure with my Mac and other Apple products. No viruses, no trojans, no worms here.

And I’m still going strong with my iBook G4. I absolutely love my iPhone 3GS (but hate AT&T). Mobile Me brings it all together quite nicely.


44 posted on 11/05/2009 12:24:05 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: Swordmaker

I do wish you could get imovie to work on Windows. It’s a great program.

Macs are great, it’s just the darn closed system that can get annoying.


45 posted on 11/05/2009 12:25:15 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: pyx

I don’t even understand your questions, sorry. I have an iPhone, it works fine with no problems. I have never tried to get it to do something it wouldn’t do. I also have a BB Storm2, from work, which is also very nice and sleek, reliable and easy to use, but usually I just pull out my iPhone. My only complaint, and this is about my previous work BB, is that I used to get a lot of text messages inviting me to raves and gatherings and other social events I didn’t appreciate, because I am not 16 years old. Actually, it was pretty funny. I have no desire to drag anyone into my tent, but I don’t appreciate people telling me I am wrong because I enjoy it. Everyone should choose what makes them comfortable, and go for it.


46 posted on 11/05/2009 12:27:00 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Swordmaker

“Most of these are classic complaints against Apple...”

I read it differently. The classic complaints had to do with hardware add-ons that were not compatible or software packages that would only run on a PC. This is a whole new argument that I’ve never heard before.

What they are saying, essentially, is that Apple hardware products are powered by Apple software products. And I’m supposed to be concerned by that? Me thinks someone was trolling for hits.


47 posted on 11/05/2009 12:29:37 PM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: pyx

Why is the Droid’s processor better? Isn’t the iPhone processor running faster? I’m not sure of the relative merits of the two chips themselves. Haven’t most of the videos of the Droid shown some lag?

The iPhone OS certainly seems easier to look at and know how to use right out of the box. That is more important to some people than others.

I’m a fan of both OSes personally. But there has been no where near as sexy hardware to go along with Android like the iPhone has.


48 posted on 11/05/2009 12:29:55 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Astronaut

Apple is a company run by hardcore liberals.

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And Bill Gates political persuasion is ... conservative?

News to me.

When I put my 3rd party ear buds in my 120G iPod classic, I am not listening to politics. I am listening to music. OMG, I just realized, some of that music is being played by hard core liberals.

Steve Jobs doesn’t give a rats patoot what you do with your computer, he just wants to make sure all the money you put into it enters his coffers, and is added to his market share. I think that makes him a capitalist.

I find it hard to believe, here we are some 25, pushing 30 years, of personal computing, and the same tired rhetoric is being used ... only updated.

In 1984, it was ‘friends don’t let friends do DOS’, or ‘the use of the mouse is a sign of terminal computer illiteracy’.

I don’t know about you all, but I use productivity applications to get the job done, not the platform on which that productivity app runs on.

And maybe because I have been in technology education since Ronald Reagan was in his first term as prez (WordPerfect, anyone), the incredibly minor differences in the Mac’s OS and Windows (again talking from an end user stance) are hardly worth discussion.

Both sides need to get over themselves.


49 posted on 11/05/2009 12:37:36 PM PST by dmz
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To: Swordmaker

Don’t like iTunes?

Try Sharepod - a great freeware tool:
http://www.getsharepod.com/download/


50 posted on 11/05/2009 12:46:12 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Swordmaker

This article is inane.


51 posted on 11/05/2009 12:48:04 PM PST by TheStickman
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To: hiredhand
But with OSX, Apple pulled the best dig against Microsoft that they could have. Under the covers, it's BSD UNIX. :-)

That's not quite how I would have put it, but I agree. I'm a hardcore Unix guy. Really hardcore. I've done Unix at home for 2 1/2 decades. I'm also a programmer. My general impression of OS X is that it was what I attempted to do on the job 2 decades ago on Sun workstations but didn't have the support to complete.

The real dig against them is that they had Xenix (Microsoft rebranded Unix) and could well have put the Microsoft Windows GUI on top of it at around the same time. They sold Xenix to SCO and went their own way.

There's been a lost generation. McNealy had the perfect opportunity and blew it. Jobs did an excellent job with the NeXT, but it didn't go anywhere.

In a way, I'm thankful that Gates was so stupid. The major security issues in Microsoft Windows has to do with how it interfaces with the underlying kernel. Better to have all the issues that Microsoft Windows XP has blessed us with (most popular botnet O/S) than with a Unix based kernel.

52 posted on 11/05/2009 12:48:20 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: Defiant
they have found a way to make money. There's nothing wrong with that.

And not only that, they've found a way to make record profits during a depression selling honest product.

Especially here, that should be cause for praise.

53 posted on 11/05/2009 12:54:11 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: La Lydia

And they are all compatible. That’s a huge plus in my book. I don’t want to have to go out and buy adapters and the like.

I’m happy.


54 posted on 11/05/2009 12:55:59 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: La Lydia; Mr. Blonde

See my post - #50

I keep a copy of Sharepod - on my Ipod. If I want to move files onto or off the ipod from another PC, I just copy the .exe file to the PC and run the app - giving me instant access.

No installing - or un-installing of the app is required (tho it does have some dependencies...)...


55 posted on 11/05/2009 12:57:04 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: RobRoy

Limewire is essentially a virus that you install of your own volition. It downloads adware and spyware to your system and makes it impossible to take off; just throwing the info out there to those who don’t know.


57 posted on 11/05/2009 1:08:05 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: mmichaels1970
Ruh roh. My mom bought an iPod for my daughter. I didn't know that I couldn't change the battery in it. So we just throw iPods away when the battery goes?

Replacement is free if the battery dies under warranty. If it dies out of warranty, then replace it yourself. Normally that would violate the warranty, but who cares since it's expired? The batteries are available for sale all over the Internet. Just get it from a reputable source, as cheap lithium-ion batteries have a habit of overheating and exploding.

58 posted on 11/05/2009 1:12:14 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: altair
Jobs did an excellent job with the NeXT, but it didn't go anywhere.

Huh? NeXT was purchased by Apple and provided the conceptual and technological foundation for Mac OS X. I'd say that's going somewhere.
59 posted on 11/05/2009 1:18:24 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Back on this post I compared an Apple laptop with a Lenovo. Look at the list. You do get a lot more with a Mac. It just depends on whether those more things are worth the price difference to you.
60 posted on 11/05/2009 1:18:39 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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