Posted on 10/29/2009 1:34:25 PM PDT by Daffynition
Some work from posings, photos, and sketches, whereas some work from the ID. Not all paintings are sourced from modelled studies.
Oh, and by the way, there were ghettos. Rockwell just didn’t paint them, and you didn’t have to see them. But they were there, and enforced by Jim Crow laws.
“It refers to the fact that Photoshop is used to make a new image from several others. He did on canvass what PS does on the computer”
Yeah, and that’s a stupid comparison, since unless they work in collage, painters actually create their own images on any particular canvas, rather than mixing seperate images together. Also, basically every artist who ever lived mixed on one canvas images he had pulled from different sources.
It is most certainly NOT the same as what photoshop does.
“Not all paintings are sourced from modelled studies”
Whoever said they were?
And when you think of a photo, you think of it as a realistic portrayal of some event, captured in time. No one ever took a painting or drawing to be a 100% accurate account.
Photos aren’t good evidence these days.
Making yourself a human xerox is not art. ART is where you recompose the picture to convey an emotion, make it more appealing to the eye, etc.
The INTENT of a Rockwell painting is to convey that image that he wanted to convey.
The INTENT of a newspaper photo is to represent reality.
Changing to composition of a photo and painting it to make it art is perfectly acceptable. Changing the composition of a photo and then publishing it in the paper as a representation of reality is fraud.
The attempt to conflate the two is ludicrous.
I often photographed colonial churches in Central America. Once as I was trying to get to a spot that would minimize the telephone/electric lines in front of a church I noticed an artist painted it with all such clutter left out.
It struck me that he could really capture it in the way our memory might filter it and hold it.
Your good scouting Rockewll is needed on this thread.
I don’t have one
Cool.
When I was in college my art professors asked me who my favorite artists were - I said I liked Renaissance artists and Norman Rockwell. They had snooty looks on their faces and said Rockwell was considered an illustrator - not really an artist. They were both big libs for sure - and they weren’t that talented. They wish they were as good as Rockwell.
As an aside. I like Ron Paul - and have always thought he looks like he came out of a Rockwell image.
I'm betting it's not just because it's a "false" image, but because it's a positive, happy image. Same reason critics celebrate John Lennon and sneer at Paul McCartney. It has to be bitter and maladapted to be true art in their eyes. Anything cheery and sunny is automatically dismissed.
I want the America that Rockwell represented too. ;D
LOL! Those are great!
The American Illustrator movement from ~1860-1970 has been totally dismissed by the art historians in favor of anti-art:
This reviewer seethes with hate for America’s past.
reviewer seems to want to diss America a LOT
http://www.americanartarchives.com/sarnoff.htm (1912 - 2000)
Student of John Clymer and Andrew Wyeth. Much work for weekly and monthly mags from the 30s on and ads for Karo Syrup (Karo Kid is a 40s icon), Dextrose (ditto the Sugar Blonde), Lucky Strike, Coors, Camay, Sal Hepatica, Listerine, Vick's Vapo Rub, Meds, Ipana. Illustrations for McCall's, American Weekly, Collier's, Woman's Home Companion, Redbook, American Magazine, Cosmopolitan, Esquire, Good Housekeeping. Portraits of President and Mrs Kennedy. Two subjects keep him famous: popular and tasteful pin-up girl calendars and the pool playing (and card playing and golfing) dogs, of which, "The Hustler" one was the best-selling print of the 1950s. Usually signed art, using full name, or "Sarnoff," or just "AS."
I believe I remember a Rockwell painting of a returning GI in the alley of his family’s row house. Ghettos originally meant urban ethnic neighborhoods (i.e., Irish, Ukranian, German, etc.). So, yes he did paint a ghetto, just not one that you and I are familiar with. The ghetto he pictured was focused on the celebration of the GI’s return from WWII by family and friends. The love of Rockwell is that his paintings were focused on human goodness and greatness as opposed to their failings. His critics called him sappy, but I’m betting everyone of those critics would love to have owned a Rockwell. Rockwell and Winslow Homer both shared a uniquely positive view of American life. Both, in my book, are considered great painters.
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