Posted on 10/21/2009 4:58:28 PM PDT by changeitback440
It is amazing how radically different the electoral map has changed in 30 some years.
IF Obama runs for TOTUS in 2012, I predict he will carry D.C. Remember, you heard it here first.
the gop was the party of country clubs. the democrats were the party of the working class.
Orange and San Diego counties went for Goldwater in 1964 -- Orange by a healthy margin, San Diego by a hair's breath.
That's about as conservative as any part of the country got, outside of the segregationist states.
Twenty years later, Reagan won all but four counties in the San Francisco area.
IMHO, look to LBJ for a parallel in legislative strategy. The good thing is, LBJ overreached and the country was so sick of him, he didn't even take a chance running for re-election. Unfortunately, he also had some major crap passed.
I think Iwannajihad was one of the kiddnappers involved in the 444 days of the American Embassy kidnapping of the American citizens...
The Ahatola Komeini brought back Sharia Law to Iran..
This time they want to spread it to Britian and the US...
I’m curious about why you can’t find your “Shift” key.
Agreed very much!
didnt mean to annoy you.......do you reply to every topic? get a life
Obama fooled most of the politically naive into thinking he was a genial TV news anchor. Maybe some of them are starting to figure it out.
That's true.
There was also a lot of overhang from the Nixon era pardon.
Ford was a decent fellow but the MSM worked hard to portray him as an idiot. He probably made the all time debate gaffe declaring Eastern Europe to not be under Soviet domination.
Carter was the bonafide idiot however as history shows.
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You did not annoy me. No I don’t reply to every post just silly ones. Oh and my life turned out better than my wildest dreams.
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“carter took every state in the south, plus winning texas.”
In 1976 Carter did take the South, except for that southern State, Virginia...
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Carter’s accent fooled a lot of people.
Yes, there would’ve been a very good chance of that happening. Ford would not have been successful in turning around the country during that period (especially as a RINO) from ‘77 to ‘81, and with the radical moonbat-led post-Watergate Congresses, ‘78 would’ve likely doubled the losses we incurred in ‘74, and quite possibly could’ve pushed the GOP down to numbers unseen since the Depression (in an anti-Ford/GOP climate, our Senate numbers were 39 going into the ‘78 election, and we could’ve lost 11 seats, among them being potentially Ted Stevens (AK), Jim McClure (ID), Chuck Percy (IL), the open KS seat (which went to Nancy Kassebaum), Pete Domenici (NM), Jesse Helms (NC), Mark Hatfield (OR), Strom Thurmond (SC), Howard Baker (TN), John Tower (TX) & the VA open seat (which went to John Warner) - some of whom won in ‘78 with underwhelming margins, and 8 seats we did win by beating incumbent Dems or capturing their open seats would’ve likely been lost (Bill Armstrong (CO); Roger Jepsen (IA); Bill Cohen (ME); Rudy Boschwitz & Dave Durenberger (MN); Thad Cochran (MS); Gordon Humphreys (NH); Larry Pressler (SD)). So add that up and we could’ve had 28 GOP Senators (including RINOs) in 1978 and perhaps as few as 100-120 (out of 435) Republicans in the House (we only had 143 in ‘77-’78). The party would’ve been powerless as a functioning opposition.
The ‘80 Dem ticket probably would’ve been Ted Kennedy-George Wallace (kid you not) and the GOP ticket probably Vice-President Bob Dole and George HW Bush (Reagan might not have even run). Kennedy-Wallace would’ve won, and Reagan would never have become President. Of course, then the 1984 ticket of ex-Ford Defense Sec Dick Cheney and DE Gov Pete du Pont would’ve likely won over Ted. (Cheney edging out in the GOP Presidential primary now-freshman TX Gov. George HW Bush, the upset ‘82 winner over Dem Gov. John Hill, the first GOP Governor since Reconstruction). There’s some alternate history for you. ;-)
1984 was a year with very low Dem turnout (and turnout in general). Reagan actually won every county in New Jersey (including Hudson, Mercer, Middlesex, Passaic, and Camden), with the exception of Essex, which Mondale barely won. That had more to do with the lack of Dem turnout than anything else.
The democraps are the party of screwing and lying to the working class.
‘76 was interesting, Ford did well in the north and west (won IL) Jimmy Farter won the entire south save for VA. Even in 1980 the south very close. That peanut brain appealed to them I guess.
Kennedy defiantly would have been the rat nominee in ‘80 if Ford had won.
The RINO Ford and heavily rat congress would have been terrible. I can’t imagine the GOP would have been able to win in 1980.
Even if Reagan had won the nod in ‘76 and the general he would have been hampered by congress and possibly been a one termer.
“Ted Kennedy-George Wallace”
I think you’ve told me this before idea. Post-racist cripple Wallace. But I don’t know. Why would Ted pick a veep with such baggage? To distract from his own? ;p
How about Kennedy-Moonbeam Brown? Too radical maybe.
Perhaps Reubin Askew, John Glenn, Mo Udall, or Lloyd Bentsen. Or even Mondale for try number 2.
For the record, turnout in 1984 was higher than it was in 1980 or 1988, or 1996 or 2000. It may have been a little lower than average, but not much.
As I think I said earlier, a win's a win. If the other party's voters don't show up it's still a victory.
nice to meet you, changeitback440... i pretty much stay away from the shift key too... have been doing so for years... in fact, my signature is also in lower case...
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