[mlo]

Don't forget this part:

"Finally, there are states, as, for instance, England, where the single circumstance of being born in the country naturalizes the children of a foreigner." - Vattel

Vattel was not writing about a single universal rule. He was recording the practices in various countries. The only country that matters to us was England, and in England, being born in the country is enough.

[RegulatorCountry]

"Finally, there are states, as, for instance, England, where the single circumstance of being born in the country naturalizes the children of a foreigner." - Vattel

Vattel was not writing about a single universal rule. He was recording the practices in various countries. The only country that matters to us was England, and in England, being born in the country is enough.

Naturalization at birth? Do you even read what you copy and paste?

[Plummz]

"Finally, there are states, as, for instance, England, where the single circumstance of being born in the country naturalizes the children of a foreigner." - Vattel

Hence, Barry Obama, were he born in Hawaii to Barack Sr, would have been, as Vattell says, "NATURALIZED AT BIRTH" under US statute at the time. Barry is a therefore a naturalized citizen at best given his claimed father and not a natural born citizen.

[dasboot]

Miss the point: what matters is the intent of the framers of the constitutional convention. The author says he has documents [Adams] that cite Vattel for reference...the part the framers chose is the important part....and illuminate the meaning of NBO according to the intent at the time of construction of the US Constitution by that gaggle of lawyers and patriots. That's what's important...and fundamental to the case.

[jardinver]

that’s right, you idiot. these babies are naturalized at birth NOT natural born

Thomas Jefferson to J.Cartwright 1824

(It)Our Revolution….presented us an album on which we were free to write what we pleased. We had no occasion to search into musty records, to hunt up royal parchments, or to investigate the laws and institutions of a semi-barbarous ancestry. We appealed to those(laws) of nature…