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To: mlo
Miss the point: what matters is the intent of the framers of the constitutional convention. The author says he has documents [Adams] that cite Vattel for reference...the part the framers chose is the important part....and illuminate the meaning of NBO according to the intent at the time of construction of the US Constitution by that gaggle of lawyers and patriots. That's what's important...and fundamental to the case.
83 posted on 10/16/2009 3:32:57 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: dasboot

It’s not implausible, that some descendant, somewhere, might possess authentic, private papers, once belonging to one of our Founders. It’s not implausible that such papers might be somehow pertinent to the matter at hand.

But, the anonymous poster makes implausible claims of heredity, in a very self-aggrandizing manner.

This is very likely another scam. I wouldn’t put much store in it at all.


84 posted on 10/16/2009 3:44:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: dasboot
"Miss the point: what matters is the intent of the framers of the constitutional convention."

Exactly. Then how could it miss the point? Vattel doesn't even say what birthers keep giving him credit for. I'd say that's a pretty big problem with using him to understand their intent.

"The author says he has documents [Adams] that cite Vattel for reference..."

The author being an anonymous guy on the internet trying to argue the birther cause, who didn't actually post any documents? That guy?

"the part the framers chose is the important part"

They didn't choose any part. That's the point.

"and illuminate the meaning of NBO according to the intent at the time of construction of the US Constitution by that gaggle of lawyers and patriots. That's what's important...and fundamental to the case."

Yes it is. And some guy on the internet with phantom documents isn't going to help. But neither will Vattel. In fact, it's not a mystery what the founders meant. Birthers just don't like it.

85 posted on 10/16/2009 3:46:37 PM PDT by mlo
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