FINLAND AND RUSSIA MASSING TROOPS (10/10/39)

Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 10/10/39

[Homer_J_Simpson]

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[Homer_J_Simpson]

Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
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[Homer_J_Simpson]

On October 10, in the course of a lengthy report to the Fuehrer on naval operations, Raeder suggested the importance of obtaining naval bases in Norway, if necessary with the help of Russia. This – so far as the confidential records show - was the first time the Navy had directly called the matter to the attention of Hitler. Raeder says the leader “saw at once the significance of the Norwegian problem.” He asked him to leave his notes on the subject and promised to give the question some thought. But at the moment the Nazi warlord was preoccupied with launching his attack in the West and with overcoming the hesitations of his generals. Norway apparently slipped out of his mind.

William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

[Raeder] framed . . . a series of notes, which he placed before Hitler on October 10. “In these notes,” he wrote, “I stressed the disadvantages which an occupation of Norway by the British would have for us: the control of the approaches to the Baltic, the outflanking of our naval operations and of our air attacks on Britain, the end of our pressure on Sweden. I also stressed the advantages for us of the occupation of the Norwegian coast: outlet to the North Atlantic, no possibility of a British mine barrier, as in the year 1917-18. . . . The Fuehrer saw at once the significance of the Norwegian problem; he asked me to leave the notes, and stated that he wished to consider the question himself.”

Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

[Homer_J_Simpson]

The International Situation – 1
Helsingfors Firm – 2-4
Incidents in European Conflict – 3
No Ships Damaged – 6-7
U-Boat, 2 Tankers Seen Off Key West* - 7

* I cut this one off mid-sentence. Sorry about that.

[Riley]

Before I got to the date at the end of the headline, I started to come out of my chair and utter a loud expletive in surprise.

*whew*

[abb]

[abb]

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/oct39/f10oct39.htm

Germans consider invasion of Norway
Tuesday, October 10, 1939

In Berlin... Admiral Raeder mentions to Hitler for the first time the possibility of invading Norway to secure naval and especially submarine bases (see December 8, 1939 and January 27, 1940). Churchill is, at this time, arguing in the British Cabinet that Norwegian coastal waters should be mined to interfere with German iron-ore traffic.

On the Western Front... German patrols are reportedly active and artillery exchanges take place.

In Paris... The French Prime Minister, Edouard Daladier, formally rejects the German peace proposals, made by Adolf Hitler on October 9th, in a national radio broadcast. He states that France will continue to fight for a definite guarantee of security in Europe.

In Finland... The Finns call up their reserves and begin the evacuation of some frontier districts, including Helsinki and Viborg.

In Moscow... A Soviet-Lithuanian Pact is signed, giving the USSR the use of bases in Lithuania. Vilna is restored to Lithuania from which it was annexed by Poland in 1922. This pact is the last in a series designed to ensure Soviet control of the Baltic.

In Riga... The Estonian government resigns. Uluots is appointed the new Prime Minister and Piip becomes the new Foreign Minister.

In Britain... Recruitment into the Women’s Land Army is suspended after 25,000 have enrolled.

[abb]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89douard_Daladier#cite_note-8

On 6 October of that year, Hitler offered France as well as Great Britain a peace proposal. There were more than a few in the French government prepared to take Hitler up on his offer, but Daladier declared in a nationwide broadcast the next day “We took up arms against aggression. We shall not put them down until we have guarantees for a real peace and security, a security which is not threatened every six months.”[9].

Shirer, William The Collapse Of The Third Republic: An Inquiry into the Fall of France in 1940, 1969, De Capo Press, page 529.

[PAR35]

Not much has changed, has it.

“Does Notre Dame Get The Breaks”

[Homer_J_Simpson]

In Paris... The French Prime Minister, Edouard Daladier, formally rejects the German peace proposals, made by Adolf Hitler on October 9th, in a national radio broadcast. He states that France will continue to fight for a definite guarantee of security in Europe.

In Finland... The Finns call up their reserves and begin the evacuation of some frontier districts, including Helsinki and Viborg.

These and other stories in tomorrow's edition of the New York Times.

[abb]

Completely out of sequence, but nevertheless worthy of note.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2359710/posts
MICHAEL KURYLA JR., 1925-2009: Survived USS Indianapolis

[GeronL]

Didn’t they consider Stalin and Hitler for a Peace Prize and in return their threatened with invasion. Well!

[GeronL]

I heard a story about a sniper from one of those countries who had a real knack for taking out officers at long ranges without a scope. I forget the details.

[investigateworld]

Wow, it’s 5:20 on the West Coast and I’m the 5th student to check in!

[BroJoeK]

"Wow, it’s 5:20 on the West Coast and I’m the 5th student to check in!"

It's a slow day in the war.

But the question of the day is: Hitler has put a "peace proposal" to the allies, now firmly rejected by both Prime Ministers -- Britain's Chamberlain and France's Deladier.

For Chamberlain, the essential precondition for peace talks with Germany is the removal of Hitler from power.

The question is: who, if anyone at the time, supported Hitler's "peace proposal"?

Hint: Pat Buchanan does.

[BroJoeK]

"Luxembourg Costs Down"

Luxembourg, Oct 9 --"While taxes and food prices soared in most of Europe, the Duchy of Luxembourg, which has no taxes, announced today that living costs for September were below the previous month. Reduced prices for potatoes and the stationary prices of butter accounted for the drop, although some foods were slightly higher."

Now, don't you just wonder why that is? Wouldn't you 'a thunk, with all that "stimulous money" pouring into those other economies, then poor benighted Luxembourg, which HORRORS! "has no taxes" would now be much worse off than them?