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“The Catastrophe” What the End of Bronze-Age Civilization Means for Modern Times
brusselsjournal.com ^ | Tue, 2009-09-15 09:20 | Thomas F. Bertonneau

Posted on 09/28/2009 9:26:36 AM PDT by Nikas777

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To: Nikas777
I am familiar with Fjordman at The Brussel's Journal and at Gates of Vienna.

Europe is headed for another calamity.

41 posted on 09/28/2009 1:58:14 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: brityank

Interesting article, thanks


42 posted on 09/28/2009 2:17:29 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: maro

And don’t forget “A Canticle For Leibowitz”


43 posted on 09/28/2009 2:28:15 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Pyro7480; B-Chan; Lurker; Jeff Head
Political parties have nothing to do with it. Let's return to this section of the essay:

So that there might be order in the polity, Plato constantly argued, there must first be order in the individual soul. Restraint and askesis play essential roles in the orderliness of the soul – hence also in civic arrangements. Restraint acknowledges the sacredness of persons and property and askesis honors the wisdom not to flaunt affluence – not because one is not entitled to it either as the fruits of personal productivity or as inheritance, but because it is anthropologically foolhardy to do so. Ours is an age of fantastically inflated, pathologically ostentatious economies; quite without cosmic calamities it is also an age rapidly losing its historical memory and even its literacy. There is a voluntary relinquishment of intellectual and moral rigors for the sake of paltry divertissement. Too many modern people see in their electronic conveniences, in their false freedom from anxiety and care, what the guardians of Mycenae must have seen in their Cyclopean walls and defensive ditches: untouchable superiority and immunity from annoyance.
This is the understanding that underscored the wisdom of America's founders; this is also the understanding that so many of us have cast aside in favor of our toys and amusements. I have said that God will not save that upon which so many of us have turned our backs. There is a price to be paid forthat, and it will consume the innocwent abd guilty alike.

The author of this essay points out that all civilizations fail in the end. Some through conquest, but for many it was simple exhaustion and IGNORance of the values that once invigorated them. We have no special dispensation.

This author uses an impressive vocabulary and a scholarly approach to tell us wht many of us are now coming to realize: Something Wicked This Way Comes. And it is not the old Soviet barbarian, the Islamic homicidal bomber or the Chinese cultural hegemonist - rather, it is the collapse of our own Western civilization chiefly due to our own weakness. It may not yet be too late to turn the tide, but the issue at stake is so much larger than perhaps any of us realize. This essay is a jaw-dropper, for it is a crucial pieceof the puzzle slotting into place.

44 posted on 09/28/2009 2:38:33 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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Neither geological nor climatological but rather sociological in character
Thanks Nikas777.
 
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45 posted on 09/28/2009 3:27:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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It left cities in smoking ruin, their wealth plundered; it plunged the affected regions into a Dark Age, bereft of literacy, during which populations drastically shrank while the level of material culture reverted to that of a Stone Age village.
The author mildly overstates his case. :')

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46 posted on 09/28/2009 3:30:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

'The Truth Is Out There'...and as soon as I find some way to contact him I will send him a link to EARTH IN UPHEAVAL.

47 posted on 09/28/2009 4:09:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: happygrl
This essay also provides some interesting contect for Lee Harris' The Suicide of Reason: Radical Islam's Threat to the West. Harris cites what appears to be the impending evaporation of the West's 'civilizational will,' much of which we have squandered in the horrors and atrocities of the last century. In this century, we seem hell-bent on completing the process of suicide by drowning - drowning in our own putrid swamp of self-hatred and political correctness. It's a recipe for civilizational failure. We are certainly not the first, and human nature being what it is, we will not be the last.
48 posted on 09/28/2009 4:14:28 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Nikas777

Ping for later.


49 posted on 09/28/2009 4:21:09 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: AnAmericanMother

The blow-out of Thera destroyed the Minoans but it didn’t bring about the end of the Bronze Age. What’s important to realize about Thera was that it was a crater with an island in the center before the Bronze Age eruption, not a mountain, with limited access from the sea creating the perfect sheltered harbor. The Minoans essentially build their Hong Kong right on top of an active volcano on the island in the middle.


50 posted on 09/28/2009 4:23:53 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: SunkenCiv

The cause of the Catastrophe as described is similar to the Fall of Rome—various barbarian people driven by a particularly vicious tribe, e.g. the Huns. A difference was the Church preserving knowledge and civility -— there was no equivalent in the Catastrophe.


51 posted on 09/28/2009 4:29:14 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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“...It left cities in smoking ruin, their wealth plundered; it plunged the affected regions into a Dark Age, bereft of literacy, during which populations drastically shrank while the level of material culture reverted to that of a Stone Age village. Echoes of the event – or complicated network of linked events – turn up in myth and find reflection in early Greek literature. The Trojan War appears to be implicated in this event, as do certain episodes of the Old Testament. Recovered records hint at this massive upheaval:

http://www.geocities.com/regkeith/linkipuwer.htm PAPYRUS IPUWER

Egypt in Upheaval

The Papyrus Ipuwer is not a collection of proverbs... or riddles; no more is it a literary prophecy... or an admonition concerning profound social changes. It is the Egyptian version of a great catastrophe.

The papyrus is a script of lamentations, a description of ruin and horror.

PAPYRUS 2:8 Forsooth, the land turns round as does a potter’s wheel.

2:11 The towns are destroyed. Upper Egypt has become dry (wastes?).

3:13 All is ruin!

7:4 The residence is overturned in a minute.

4:2 ... Years of noise. There is no end to noise.

What do “noise” and “years of noise” denote? The translator wrote: “There is clearly some play upon the word hrw (noise) here, the point of which is to us obscure.” Does it mean “earthquake” and “years of earthquake”? In Hebrew the word raash signifies “noise”, “commotion”, as well as “earthquake”. Earthquakes are often accompanied by loud sounds, subterranean rumbling and roaring, and this acoustic phenomenon gives the name to the upheaval itself.

Apparently the shaking returned again and again, and the country was reduced to ruins, the state went into sudden decline, and life became unbearable.

Ipuwer says:

PAPYRUS 6:1 Oh, that the earth would cease from noise, and tumult (uproar) be no more.

The noise and the tumult were produced by the earth. The royal residence would be overthrown “in a minute” and left in ruins....

The papyrus of Ipuwer contains evidence of some natural cataclysm accompanied by earthquakes and bears witness to the appearance of things as they happened at that time.

I shall compare some passages from the Book of Exodus and from the papyrus. As, prior to the publication of Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos, no parallels had been drawn between the Bible and the text of the Papyrus Ipuwer, the translator of the papyrus could not have been influenced by a desire to make his translation resemble the biblical text.

PAPYRUS 2:5-6 Plague is throughout the land. Blood is everywhere.

EXODUS 7:21 ... there was blood thoughout all the land of Egypt.

This was the first plague.

PAPYRUS 2:10 The river is blood.

EXODUS 7:20 ... all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood.

This water was loathsome, and the people could not drink it.

PAPYRUS 2:10 Men shrink from tasting — human beings, and thirst after water.

EXODUS 7:24 And all the Egyptians digged round about the river for water to drink; for they could not drink of the water of the river.

The fish in the lakes and the river died, and worms, insects, and reptiles bred prolifically.

EXODUS 7:21 ... and the river stank.

PAPYRUS 3:10-13 That is our water! That is our happiness! What shall we do in respect thereof? All is ruin!

The destruction in the fields is related in these words:

EXODUS 9:25 ... and the hail smote every herb of the field, and brake every tree of the field.

PAPYRUS 4:14 Trees are destroyed.

6:1 No fruit nor herbs are found..

This portent was accompanied by consuming fire. Fire spread all over the land.

EXODUS 9:23-24 ... the fire ran along the ground.... there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous.

PAPYRUS 2:10 Forsooth, gates, columns and walls are consumed by fire.

The fire which consumed the land was not spread by human hand but fell from the skies.

By this torrent of destruction, according to Exodus,

EXODUS 9:31-32 ... the flax and the barley was smitten; for the barley was in the ear, and the flax was boiled. But the wheat and the rye were not smitten: for they were not grown up.

It was after the next plague that the fields became utterly barren. Like the Book of Exodus (9:31-32 and 10:15), the papyrus relates that no duty could be rendered to the crown for wheat and barley; and as in Exodus 7:21 (”And the fish that was in the river died”), there was no fish for the royal storehouse.

PAPYRUS 10:3-6 Lower Egypt weeps... The entire palace is without its revenues. To it belong (by right) wheat and barley, geese and fish.

The fields were entirely devastated.

EXODUS 10:15 ... there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the fields, through all the land of Egypt.

PAPYRUS 6:3 Forsooth, grain has perished on every side.

5:12 Forsooth, that has perished which yesterday was seen. The land is left over to its weariness like the cutting of flax.

The statement that the crops of the fields were destroyed in a single day (”which yesterday was seen”) excludes drought, the usual cause of a bad harvest; only hail, fire, or locusts could have left the fields as though after “the cutting of flax”. The plague is described in Psalms 105:34-35 in these words: “... the locusts came, and caterpillars, and that without number. And did eat up all the herbs in their land, and devoured the fruit of their ground.”

PAPYRUS 6:1 No fruit nor herbs are found... hunger.

The cattle were in a pitiful condition.

EXODUS 9:3 ... the hand of the Lord is upon the cattle which is in the field... there shall be a very grievous murrain.

PAPYRUS 5:5 All animals, their hearts weep. Cattle moan....

Hail and fire made the frightened cattle flee.

EXODUS 9:19 .. gather thy cattle, and all that thou hast in the field...

21 And he that regarded not the word of the Lord left his servants and his cattle in the field.

PAPYRUS 9:2-3 Behold, cattle are left to stray, and there is none to gather them together. Each man fetches for himself those that are branded with his name.

The ninth plague, according to the Book of Exodus, covered Egypt with profound darkness.

EXODUS 10:22 ... and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt.

PAPYRUS 9:11 The land is not light....

“Not light” is in Egyptian equivalent to “without light” or “dark”. But there is some question as to whether the two sentences are entirely parallel. The years of wandering in the desert are described as spent in gloom under a cover of thick clouds....


The Last Night before the Exodus

According to the Book of Exodus, the last night the Israelites were in Egypt was a night in which death struck instantly and took victims from every Egyptian home. The death of so many in a single night, even at the same hour of midnight, cannot be explained by a pestilence, which would last more than a single hour. The story of the last plague does seem like a myth; it is a stranger in the sequence of the other plagues, which can be explained...

...Apparently we have before us the testimony of an Egyptian witness of the plagues.

On careful reading of the papyrus, it appeared that the slaves were still in Egypt when at least one great shock occurred, ruining houses and destroying life and fortune. It precipitated a general flight of the population from the cities, while the other plagues probably drove them from the country into the cities.

The biblical testimony was reread. It became evident that it had not neglected this most conspicuous event: it was the tenth plague.

In the papyrus it is said: “The residence is overturned in a minute.” On a previous page it was stressed that only an earthquake could have overturned and ruined the royal residence in a minute. Sudden and simultaneous death could be inflicted on many....

EXODUS 12:30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt: for there was not a house where there was not one dead.

A great part of the people lost their lives in one violent shock. Houses were struck a furious blow.

EXODUS 12:27 [The Angel of the Lord] passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses.

The word nogaf for “smote” is used for a violent blow, e.g. for thrusting with his horns by an ox.

The residence of the king and the palaces of the rich were tossed to the ground, and with them the houses of the common people and the dungeons of captives.

EXODUS 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.

PAPYRUS 4:3, and 5:6 Forsooth, the children of princes are dashed against the walls.

6:12 Forsooth, the children of princes are cast out in the streets.

PAPYRUS 6:3 The prison is ruined.

2:13 He who places his brother in the ground is everywhere.

To it correspond Exodus 12:30:

... there was not a house where there was not one dead.

In Exodus 12:30 it is written:

... there was a great cry in Egypt.

To it corresponds the papyrus 3:14:

It is groaning that is throughout the land, mingled with lamentations.

The statues of the gods fell and broke in pieces: “this night... against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment” (Exodus 12:12).

A book by Artapanus, no longer extant, which quoted some unknown ancient source and which in its turn was quoted by Eusebius, tells of “hail and earthquake by night [of the last plague], so that those who fled from the earthquake were killed by the hail, and those who sought shelter from the hail were destroyed by the earthquake. And at that time all the houses fell in, and most of the temples.”

The earth was equally pitiless towards the dead in their graves: the sepulchers opened, and the buried were disentombed.

PAPYRUS 4:4, also 6:14 Forsooth, those who were in the place of embalmment are laid on the high ground.


Revolt and Flight

The description of distrubances in the Papyrus Ipurew, when compared with the scriptural narrative, gives a strong impression that both sources relate the very same events. It is therefore only natural to look for mention of revolt among the population, of a flight of wretched slaves from this country visited by disaster, and of a cataclysm in which the pharaoh perished.

Although in the mutilated papyrus there is no explicit reference to the Israelites or their leaders, three facts are clearly described as consequences of the upheaval: the population revolted; the wretched or the poor men fled; the king perished under unusual circumstances....

PAPYRUS 4:2 Forsooth, great and small say: I wish I might die.

5:14f. Would that there might be an end of men, no conception, no birth! Oh, that the earth would cease from noise, and tumult be no more!

The escaped slaves hurried across the border of the country. By day a column of smoke went before them in the sky; by night it was a pillar of fire.

EXODUS 13:21 ... by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night.

PAPYRUS 7:1 Behold, the fire has mounted up on high. Its burning goes forth against the enemies of the land.

The translator added this remark: “Here the ‘fire’ is regarded as something disastrous.”

After the first manifestations of the protracted cataclysm the Egyptians tried to bring order into the land. They traced the route of the escaped slaves. The wanderers became “entangled in the land, the wilderness hath shut them in” (Exodus 14:3). They turned to the sea, they stood at Pi-ha-Khiroth. “The Egyptians pursued after them. The Egyptians marched after them.” A hurricane blew all the night and the sea fled.

In a great avalanche of water “the sea returned to his strength”, and “the Egyptians fled against it”. The sea engulfed the chariots and the horsemen, the pharoah and all his host.

The Papyrus Ipuwer (7:1-2) records only that the pharaoh was lost under unusual circumstances “that have never happened before”. The Egyptian wrote his lamentations, and even in the broken lines they are perceptible:

... weep... the earth is... on every side... weep...


Excerpt from Ages in Chaos, by Immanuel Velikovsky (pages 18-31)


To this day, scholarly explanations for the collapse of the great Egyptian Empire, a civilization that burst on to History’s stage... arrayed in wisdom beyond our Centuries... that one day was... and then suddenly was not... most explanations remain woefully inadequate


52 posted on 09/28/2009 4:47:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Nikas777; SunkenCiv
The suitors resemble Hesiod’s fifth men, the phase of humanity to which Hesiod sees himself as belonging: this is the age inaugurated by the “race of iron.” Envy or resentment, disregard for law and civilized achievement, and a strong proclivity to violent expropriation of other men’s chattels constitute the chief traits of the Hesiodic “Iron Age.”

Thank the gods and heroes that such decadent and boorish behavior never occured at the end of the Stone Age, when copper & bronze were discovered, and only used for peaceful and benevolent purposes!

Calling the start of the Iron Age "The Catastrophe" beggars belief. Spoken like true Luddites, still worshipping at the feet of The Noble Savage, denouncinging that most evil of all evils, the Mother Gaea raping iron plow.

My hat is off to any thinking person who can stand reading both Part I and Part II in their entirity, without gagging: they get the Iron Stomach Award with Bronze Cluster.

53 posted on 09/28/2009 5:19:57 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If God didn't want a One Worlder hanging from every tree, He wouldn't have created rope)
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To: Fred Nerks

:’) I think he’s too far gone. The only reason a catastrophe is believed to have happened, a dark age, is because of the screwed up conventional pseudochronology.


54 posted on 09/28/2009 6:27:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; ApplegateRanch

Thanks.


55 posted on 09/28/2009 6:28:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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You missed the point. You should read further.


56 posted on 09/28/2009 7:15:11 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Noumenon
This author uses an impressive vocabulary and a scholarly approach to tell us wht many of us are now coming to realize: Something Wicked This Way Comes. And it is not the old Soviet barbarian, the Islamic homicidal bomber or the Chinese cultural hegemonist - rather, it is the collapse of our own Western civilization chiefly due to our own weakness. It may not yet be too late to turn the tide, but the issue at stake is so much larger than perhaps any of us realize. This essay is a jaw-dropper, for it is a crucial pieceof the puzzle slotting into place.

I agree completely. Say what one will about the Soviet communist, the Islamic fundie, the Han supremacist -- at least they still believe in something. Here in the West, all we believe in is our own nerve endings.

57 posted on 09/28/2009 7:58:57 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Yes, and Lee Harris' point in The Suicide of Reason is that we are fast losing our ability to deal with the tribal actor. To the extent that we submerge our will to live in political correctness and the naive assumption that everyone wants the same things that we in the West do, we render our civilization vulnerable to those who don't give a damn about what we have or what we want.

In the end, they hate us for who we are and what we represent, and they want us all dead. You can't reason with the plague; you can't negotiate with cancer. You must destroy it. Because the alternative is...

58 posted on 09/28/2009 8:11:55 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Nikas777

Great article. Thanks for posting it. FreeRepublic rocks!


59 posted on 09/28/2009 9:59:13 PM PDT by zeugma (Life is short. Thank God.)
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It is interesting to note that Plato’s (Solon’s) story of the location of Atlantis clearly refers to the existence of true continents to the west of the island. The explicit description of the island being beyond the Pillars of Hercules tells me that it was not Thera. Nor does the description of its end jibe with a massive volcanic eruption as occurred at Santorini.


60 posted on 09/28/2009 10:37:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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