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Vanity: Health Care Proponent and Pro-Abortion Activist? Hypocritical!
me ^ | 9/10/09 | me

Posted on 09/10/2009 6:02:57 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!

How is it that all of these uber-liberal types who are completely in support of "My Body, My Choice" abortion are fighting tooth and nail for nationalized health care? If this health care bill passes, those same people will lose all power to make decisions about their bodies or their health. It goes against what they claim to have been fighting for all these years: the freedom to choose what they do with their own bodies, without government infringing upon that right. It's just plain hypocritical.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abortion; healthcare; prolife; singlepayer; socialism
I don't normally post vanities, but I would really love to hear your comments.

I have had this discussion with the rabidly pro-abortion, pro-Obama, pro-health care members of my family...it's like they put their brains on hold to support the President's agenda.

1 posted on 09/10/2009 6:02:57 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: I'm ALL Right!
They weren't all that interested in general freedom. They just wanted the power to kill unborn children and since the government had rules against it they had to be against that government, thus pro "freedom". Now that the government wants to pay for those abortions and provide as many as desired they no longer have to be anti-government/pro-freedom and their true selves are exposed.

I phrased the hypocrisy as "Why do the Dems want to allow a woman the choice to remove an unborn child without any restriction like it was some type of tumor, but would require that same woman to receive (and possibly be denied) government permission to have an actual tumor removed?"

2 posted on 09/10/2009 6:10:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: KarlInOhio

Precisely.
For leftists it is never about principle. It is only about the accrual of power.
Infanticide fits perfectly into the leftist playbook of population control, particularly minority populations. “Right to Choose” has always been about reducing the black and poor populations.
Murder is, after all, the primary tool in the leftist kit.


3 posted on 09/10/2009 6:18:57 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: I'm ALL Right!
I find it hypocritical to claim he “cares” about school kids. His “speech” was to dysfunctional families that are envious of “Americans” and lack funds. I hear his mother remarried a very wealthy man - so no fund issue. If he is an “American” why didn't he go to an American school when he was in Indonesia? Why did he go to a Madras school?

If he cares so much about kids, WHY does he advocate ABORTION?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZJYWjkAPo

Why did he vigorously advocate AGAINST the Infant Born Alive Act in 2001 in Ill. when he was a Senator?

Proof Obama Supported Infanticide / Text of the Amended Illinois Born-Alive Infants Protection Bill (SB 1082; March 13, 2003); Essentially Identical To The Federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act Enacted In 2002 / Live Birth Abortions Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVjdOHINLqU&feature=PlayList&p=EB34076827D71628&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14

Obama in his own voice argues AGAINST the Infant Born Alive Act

Audio: Obama argues against Born Alive legislation in IL state senate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUkbuhXzbvI

I don't want him NEAR my kid, let alone a “role model” to HELP! Obama is an EVIL, SICK man. He needs psychological help.

I'd also like to see his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I wonder why HIS has to be “sealed”.

I'd like to know about HIS grade.

I'd like to SEE and READ what he wrote in college.

WHY was Michele's racist writings at Princeton put off limits? NO, Obama is off limits to my kids. He wants to influence the ones that weren't aborted to his EVIL thinking.

4 posted on 09/10/2009 6:26:26 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Obama is definitely in support of abortion, that was never in question.

I'm simply wondering how people can say they are supporting both the gov't run health care and be "Pro-Choice". It is inconsistent at best. It's as inconsistent as being "Pro-Choice" and anti-death penalty. Both positions kill a human being.

5 posted on 09/10/2009 6:37:27 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
“I'm simply wondering how people can say they are supporting both the gov’t run health care and be “Pro-Choice”. It is inconsistent at best. It's as inconsistent as being “Pro-Choice” and anti-death penalty. Both positions kill a human being. “

The government run health care is PRO CHOICE.
That is consistent. He wants tax payers to FUND it through his government plan. To be “pro choice” is to support abortion - there is no inconsistency there. Either you are for it or you are against it. Oh, I know, some will say but “I wouldn't have an abortion ...” but they support OTHERS to having one. That too is inconsistent and hypocritical.

“It's as inconsistent as being “Pro-Choice” and anti-death penalty. Both positions kill a human being.”

There is NO inconsistency in being AGAINST abortion

and

FOR capital punishment.

Abortion is taking the life of an INNOCENT human being.
These innocent souls have not done anything wrong and innocent beyond any reasonable doubt.

OTOH capital punishment is reserved for only the most heinous that are GUILTY beyond ANY reasonable doubt. There has NOT been ONE person put to death that was INNOCENT. Not one person has even been proven to be INNOCENT that was put to death - NOT ONE! What they do is try to sew doubt so you will NOT punish the most heinous.

Haven't you seen the pattern? LIGHT on punishment and kill the infant? They strive to protect the most heinous people.

Capital punishment IS a deterrent to most criminals. There are some that won't heed that threat but that doesn't mean we should not have the threat in place. Punishment should discourage crimes. Today our punishment is becoming a joke. Criminals often have more RIGHTS than the VICTIMS. We need capital punishment for those that are terribly EVIL. There are many that will never be “rehabilitated”. They are too far gone. It's not a punishment we give often. People EARN it and then there is the appeal process that often outlives the person GUILTY beyond any reasonable doubt. So being against abortion (the innocent beyond any reasonable doubt) and the EVIL ones that are GUILTY beyond any reasonable doubt is logical. Comparing apples to oranges and ignoring the differences, innocent and guilty is what some don't seem to register.

BTW, from a Christian perspective, capital punishment is Biblically correct.

6 posted on 09/10/2009 6:58:44 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
We disagree on a number of points, and that's fine. Respectfully, I was not trying to start a religious discussion, nor do I want to delve into that, as I was hoping for a different kind of discussion.

These people have been fighting for the gov't to stay out of their choices for their own bodies for years now, and yet they are just fine handing over their own freedom of choice and every other American's freedom of choice (not just talking about abortion, here) in order to support the President's fascist agenda. How do they not see the irrational hypocrisy in this position?

7 posted on 09/10/2009 7:43:14 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

“These people have been fighting for the gov’t to stay out of their choices for their own bodies for years now, and yet they are just fine handing over their own freedom of choice and every other American’s freedom of choice (not just talking about abortion, here) in order to support the President’s fascist agenda. How do they not see the irrational hypocrisy in this position?”

Liberals want GOVERNMENT to make their choices.

The sheeple are lazy. They want GOVERNMENT to lead them by the nose so they don’t have to THINK. Mom, Dad and fa,mily have been replaced by the GOVERNMENT. THe truth is they don’t mind the GOVERNMENT making their choices and hoping others PAY for their choice - whatever it may be.


8 posted on 09/10/2009 10:10:02 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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