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'2010 California Marriage Protection Act' initiative filed; would outlaw nearly all divorces ZOT!

Posted on 09/09/2009 12:10:40 PM PDT by kopite82

http://ag.ca.gov/initiatives/activeindex.php?active=A 09-0026

Submitted for Title and Summary on September 01, 2009. "2010 California Marriage Protection Act."

PDF link here: http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i823_initiative_09-0026.pdf

SECTION 1. Title. This act shall be known as the "2010 California Marriage Protection Act."

SECTION 2. Section 7.6 is added to Article I of the California Constitution to read: "No party to any marriage shall be restored to the state of an unmarried person during the lifetime of the other party unless the marriage is void or voidable, as set forth in Part 2 of Division 6 of the Family Code.

Relevant section of the Family Code: http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/code/getcode.html?file=./fam/02001-03000/2210-2212

Website: http://rescuemarriage.org/


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1 posted on 09/09/2009 12:10:40 PM PDT by kopite82
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I wonder what constitutes “voidable”. In CA I might not have been able to divorce my abusive wife, because I didn’t have that much proof, and anyway, in many of the more liberal judges’ minds men can’t be abused by women.


2 posted on 09/09/2009 12:13:48 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: kopite82

I don’t know what the motivation for this was, but many people would probably agree that divorce is too easy.

(ready for flames)


3 posted on 09/09/2009 12:14:01 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: kopite82

Sounds like a great way to further reduce the number of marriages.

What a stupid idea.


4 posted on 09/09/2009 12:14:15 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: kopite82

Some things just go too far.


5 posted on 09/09/2009 12:15:26 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: kopite82

More control brought to you by Government.


6 posted on 09/09/2009 12:15:40 PM PDT by rhombus
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Well the one woman - one man marriage idea would make divorce illegal. It isn’t one man or one woman at a time. It is one man-one woman marriage.


7 posted on 09/09/2009 12:15:59 PM PDT by buffyt (If ObamaScare is so great, WHY won't Congress and President USE IT, TOO????????????????????????)
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To: kopite82

The poster signed up to FR today. The site linked is actually a pro same sex marriage site.

The “anti-divorce” bill is obviously a sort of an attempt at satire. Their point would seem to be “Heterosexuals sometimes get divorced, therefore we should allow men to marry men and women to marry women.”


9 posted on 09/09/2009 12:17:58 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: kopite82

the state is bankrupt and productive people are bailing out but the legislature continues it’s experiments in social and environmental engineering


10 posted on 09/09/2009 12:18:59 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: kopite82; Quix; marbren; Jo Nuvark; TaraP
I usually like to start with some background on a subject or organization or bill or initiative. Does anyone has background on this and any relevant details?

The following is what I found...

About RescueMarriage.org

RescueMarriage.org is the brain-child of concerned Christian and political activist John Marcotte, who felt strongly that Prop 8 did not go far enough in protecting traditional marriage. With the help of attorney’s and friends, Marcotte is attempting to ban divorce in the State of California.


11 posted on 09/09/2009 12:20:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Good..Elimination of screwy marriages and divorces such as Brittney Spears and her generation for one....


12 posted on 09/09/2009 12:22:34 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: kopite82

Great idea and a perfect way to protect marriage.


13 posted on 09/09/2009 12:23:14 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
You were saying ...

The poster signed up to FR today. The site linked is actually a pro same sex marriage site.

Can you give some information regarding what you're saying with this site being linked to a "same sex marriage site"? I'm trying to run down information on this and find out where the person is coming from and what's going on and so on and so forth... :-)

14 posted on 09/09/2009 12:23:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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You were saying ...

Good..Elimination of screwy marriages and divorces such as Brittney Spears and her generation for one....

Well..., before I comment too much on that initiative, I would like to know more about who is involved, what their motivation is, where they come from, who they are politically associated with and a bunch of other stuff. This sounds pretty fishy to me... so I would like to find out. :-)

15 posted on 09/09/2009 12:26:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Little Pig
anyway, in many of the more liberal judges’ minds men can’t be abused by women. Your words are the reason I will NEVER marry or live with a woman in the USA. I have several family and friends that are LEO's and I've heard your quote 100's of times. Some of the LEO's will never marry because of what they see on a daily basis - the laws twisted against men. I've been told that 90% of the restraining orders issued against men are blatant lies. No, a woman could never abuse a man...right.
16 posted on 09/09/2009 12:26:49 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral?)
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To: Star Traveler

Follow the link the poster provided:

http://rescuemarriage.org/

It has links to several pro gay marriage sites. The “articles” on the surface appear to be anti-gay marriage, but if you read them, they are clearly satirical, mocking those who oppose same sex marriage.


17 posted on 09/09/2009 12:27:14 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: cvq3842
I don’t know what the motivation for this was, but many people would probably agree that divorce is too easy.

And getting married isn't easy?
Here's a simple question, are there more marriages per capita today than there were 50, 20 or even 10 year ago?

Why are there fewer men getting married? Because, unless the intent is to raise a family, the legal ramifications do not justify the risk. The Gov't has interfered in this to the point that marriage simply isn't as attractive as it used to be.

Consider, I get married and immediately lose 50% of my income, my possessions and assume a life-long responsibility for any debts she brings in. If she cheats and has a child, I get responsibility for not only raising the child, but also paying for college (of the child's choice). If I divorce her for any number of reasons, the court may decide that she gets a percentage of my income for the rest of my life.

So, now we have pre-nuptual agreements becoming more and more popular. But consider this - if we live together without the benefit of being married, we can have kids, we can have a home and if we split up - we each go our own way.

That is why, IMHO, marriages are becoming more rare. Men gain NOTHING from the arrangement. Thanks to lawyers and the Gov't getting involved in areas they do not belong.

18 posted on 09/09/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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Although I support the concept in principle, I don’t believe this is a serious push by a conservative group or Christian organization. It seems to me that this is more likely a stunt by bitter leftwing homosexuals...an answer of sorts to Prop. 8. These people think they can show that the real motivation behind Prop. 8 wasn’t the protection of marriage but rather the hatred of gays. At least that seems to be their theory of operation on this...


19 posted on 09/09/2009 12:29:45 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: Little Pig

and anyway, in many of the more liberal judges’ minds men can’t be abused by women.”

In the eyes of many MEN inside the total justice system- women are responsible for their own rapes.

“What were you wearing, dearie?”

“What did you say to piss him off, dearie?”

“Why did you wear that outfit if you didn’t want a man to pay attention to you, dearie?”

“Why did you decide to go to that bar to use the cigarette machine, dearie?”

“Are you sure you were to meet other girl friends at that bar, dearie?”

“Are you sure you weren’t looking to make a connection with a man, dearie?”

“Are you sure he didn’t just like you a little too much, dearie?”

Are you sure that you weren’t leading him on, dearie?”

“Are you sure you said ‘NO’. dearie?”

“Are you sure that you meant ‘NO’, dearie?”

“Did you enjoy the experience even a little, dearie?”

” Did you experience an orgasm, dearie?”

“If so, then is it really a rape, dearie?”

I could go on and on.


20 posted on 09/09/2009 12:30:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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