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Earth-sized planets are just right for life
New Scientist Space ^ | 09/07/09 | David Shiga

Posted on 09/07/2009 4:54:04 PM PDT by KevinDavis

THE discovery of extrasolar super-Earths - rocky planets about five to ten times the mass of Earth - has raised hopes that some may harbour life. Perhaps it's a vain hope though, since it now seems that Earth is just the right size to sustain lif

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1 posted on 09/07/2009 4:54:04 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 09/07/2009 4:54:36 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: KevinDavis

Yippee! For all of my planet-hopping, I’m glad I settled on THIS one. *SNORT*


3 posted on 09/07/2009 4:56:12 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: KevinDavis

I don’t know if the size of the world makes a difference.


4 posted on 09/07/2009 4:56:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: KevinDavis
People need to parse their statements better, lest they lose credibility.

"Life as we know it" would be a more appropriate way of framing this article.

5 posted on 09/07/2009 5:02:27 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: KevinDavis

Just right for human life anyway.


6 posted on 09/07/2009 5:02:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: GeronL
Earth-sized planets are just right for life

Except if they're too close for comfort, like Venus.

7 posted on 09/07/2009 5:03:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GeronL

It’ll make a huge difference. Too much or too little gravity changes a lot of things, including impeding the basic functions of life, but it also influences atmosphere and planetary structural makeup.


8 posted on 09/07/2009 5:03:53 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: KevinDavis
Earth-sized planets are just right for life

I've always rejected this statement or any other like it.

It has always struck me as the quintessential example of circular reasoning.

That Science is making it makes it doubly painful to hear.

9 posted on 09/07/2009 5:04:03 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: KevinDavis
Its not a matter of being the right size.. but being just the right distance from the sun.. with a magnetosphere(iron core).. proper revolutions.. proper path around the sun.. and about a thousand other little items.. or maybe a hundred..

Life seems to be is very choosy.. Whatever life is.. Nobody seems to know what life really is.. Dead DNA looks exactly the same as living DNA..
I wonder if a carrot is alive.. When would a carrot be called dead?..

10 posted on 09/07/2009 5:06:57 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Crazieman

All right by me. I definitely wasn’t thinking of moving to a super-giant gasball. Maybe a moon =O)


11 posted on 09/07/2009 5:14:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Publius6961

bttt

Grinspoon, in the last paragraph would agree with you.


12 posted on 09/07/2009 5:15:25 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: hosepipe

Earth life may be very different from what me might find somewhere else. Something as minor as the wrong wavelengths of light from another sun might make a planet inhabitable to humans.


13 posted on 09/07/2009 5:19:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: KevinDavis

The earth is sufficiently remarkable that it may be unique in our galaxy.

This is due to the big splat that created the moon which has no iron core but is amazingly similar to earth’s crust.

The earth compared to mars and venus has a really thin crust and a very big core. I suspect that the big collision spit up a lot of the crust to form the moon.

So our planet may be unique to have a big magnetic field, a thin crust, plate techtonics and a really big moon which causes tides, and probably adds tidal heating in the core.

And then you have to have a lot of water to stabilize the atmosphere and temp, but not so much that there are no hard surfaces. I think it would be really hard to create life from nothing in the ocean as there would be too much dilution, but trillions of tide pools are perfect little chemistry labs where life could start.

Bottomline: I think you need the big splat to get an earth and then you need just the right amount of water and that will be a very hard combination to achieve.


14 posted on 09/07/2009 5:26:32 PM PDT by staytrue
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“I don’t know if the size of the world makes a difference.”

A larger planet will have a larger gravitational force and require any living thing to be stronger. If the planet has an atmosphere similar to our Earth the air pressure would be much higher and would change the temperature at which water boils. If Earth’s atmospheric pressure were 50 pounds per sq inch, water would not boil until it was heated to 281 deg F. This high boiling point of water and the high gravity would mean that any intelligent life would certainly be very different if not impossible.


15 posted on 09/07/2009 5:26:58 PM PDT by Pelagius of Asturias
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There is an evolving theory called "The Rare Earth Hypothesis" that starts with the Earth's presence in the liquid water zone and going on from there. YES it does refer to 'Life as we Know it' and it is a thought experiment but I find it rather convincing. When you add the apparent improbability of such a large moon that does so many good things, it really makes one think.
16 posted on 09/07/2009 5:42:18 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: staytrue

All the planets in the solar system are case studies.

Mercury is too close, and is almost a solid iron ball with a tiny almost paper thin crust.

Venus is too close, and has an atmosphere 92 times the density, etc etc


17 posted on 09/07/2009 5:44:31 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Crazieman

Gravity changes some basic things: a creature’s Mass goes by size cubed (volume) but heat dissipation goes by size squared (area) for example. Thus, a large animal has more thermostat problems, and that is a real consideration for metabolism, given the basic laws of chemistry. It also bears on motor activities of the creature. It changes atmospheric density (thus atmosphere composition). No doubt that life, possibly even similar to that we know, is possible, but it would be dramatically influenced by a large planet (or a small one).


18 posted on 09/07/2009 5:49:24 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: KevinDavis

That’s what the scientists get the big bucks for! Next studies will will find that beaches are often close to water.


19 posted on 09/07/2009 5:50:33 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: KevinDavis

They from what I can understand that all life is carbon based. From what little I remember of my bio. classes silicon can & does act the way carbon does & that life could form from silicon. In that case what we know gets tossed out the window.


20 posted on 09/07/2009 6:14:10 PM PDT by TMSuchman (SEMPER FI & carry on with the plan of the day.......)
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