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Bipedal Humans Came Down From The Trees, Not Up From The Ground
sciencedaily ^

Posted on 08/28/2009 4:01:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono

A detailed examination of the wrist bones of several primate species challenges the notion that humans evolved their two-legged upright walking style from a knuckle-walking ancestor.

The same lines of evidence also suggest that knuckle-walking evolved at least two different times, making gorillas distinct from chimpanzees and bonobos.

"We have the most robust data I've ever seen on this topic," said Daniel Schmitt, a Duke University associate professor of evolutionary anthropology. "This model should cause everyone to re-evaluate what they've said before."

A report on the findings will appear online during the week of Aug. 10 in the research journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: bonobo; bonobos; chimpanzee; chimpanzees; godsgravesglyphs
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Tracy Kivell relates how bones suggest human ancestors never knuckle-walked, while chimpanzees and gorillas evolved trait separately. (Credit: Duke University)


1 posted on 08/28/2009 4:01:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Some humans never stopped hugging trees.


2 posted on 08/28/2009 4:05:11 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (This Little Piggie Gets Wee Wee'd Up All The Way Home)
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To: JoeProBono

3 posted on 08/28/2009 4:09:46 PM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: JoeProBono
I would:


4 posted on 08/28/2009 4:11:50 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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More handwaving and ‘just so’ stories from the humanist propaganda elites...


5 posted on 08/28/2009 4:12:21 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Daffynition

6 posted on 08/28/2009 4:13:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
"This model should cause everyone to re-evaluate what they've said before."

We're really, really, REALLY sure this time. Absolutely, positively, cross-my-heart sure.

(What's everybody snickering about?)
7 posted on 08/28/2009 4:19:16 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: JoeProBono

So now instead of calling people “knuckle-draggers”, we have to call them “tree-hangers”. Or is that racist? I’m so confused.


8 posted on 08/28/2009 4:19:38 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: JoeProBono
That was from the original version of From Here to Eternity.
9 posted on 08/28/2009 4:21:12 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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10 posted on 08/28/2009 4:22:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: AZLiberty

11 posted on 08/28/2009 4:25:31 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Evolution is based on randomness. The molecular level is designed.


12 posted on 08/28/2009 4:25:51 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Both are wrong, my daddy said he found me in a snow bank during the winter of “39”.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 4:41:39 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: JoeProBono; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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Gods
Graves
Glyphs
Thanks JoeProBono.
The Scars of Evolution:
What Our Bodies Tell Us
About Human Origins

by Elaine Morgan
"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

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14 posted on 08/28/2009 6:03:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Early volcano victims discovered
BBC | Monday, May 3, 1999 | editors
Posted on 09/03/2004 10:59:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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15 posted on 08/28/2009 6:07:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

What about the aquatic ape? Did he walk on his knuckles? I think not!


16 posted on 08/28/2009 6:47:38 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: JoeProBono

Right. Your photo is from the remake.


17 posted on 08/28/2009 7:11:32 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: JoeProBono

I mean your second photo is from the remake.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 7:12:30 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: JoeProBono

Or not, since we were created fully human, not half.


19 posted on 08/28/2009 10:28:29 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Fractal Trader
:')
You're so special
Elaine Morgan,
Mountain Ash, Glamorgan, UK
18 June 2008
So you think you're unique (24 May, p 28)? Of course we are - every species is unique - but nowadays we are continually being reminded that we are nevertheless "not so special". It's a coded phrase designed to convey the idea that nearly all the traits distinguishing Homo sapiens from our nearest relatives have finally been satisfactorily accounted for or shown to be illusory and that, as your article put it: "The last stronghold of human uniqueness has fallen."

The motivation behind all this may be a laudable attempt to counter creationist claims of a special creation.

But that battle can never be won by shutting our eyes to uncomfortable truths. The fact is that with respect to the most salient physiological features distinguishing humans from chimpanzees - habitual bipedalism, "naked" skin, a subcutaneous fat layer and so on - leading Darwinian scientists are, if anything, further away from any agreed explanation than they were a century ago. That is despite the fact that physiological differences are far more hard-edged and quantifiable than behavioural ones - and should be regarded as more reliable evidence. Something is clearly missing in their narrative.

The imminent bicentenary of Darwin's birth would be an excellent opportunity to confront this spectacular failure. Instead, there is a tendency to sweep it under the carpet by refusing to talk about it. If Darwinian scientists are genuinely unaware of how many questions still remain unanswered, they are deceiving themselves. If they are aware of it, they are being disingenuous in glossing over these basic problems by distracting attention from them.

In either case it is a deplorable situation, and it is time somebody said so.
Here's a file from March 28, 2000, that apparently I hadn't touched since. The link is "live.altavista.com" so it's probably a dead link. Hmm, lemme check... nope, not there, nothin' in the Wayback Machine either.
A new fossil analysis is rattling the family tree with evidence that humans evolved directly from an ancestor that walked around on its knuckles like gorillas and chimpanzees. -- "Study Looks At Human Ancestor Traits by Matthew Fordahl, AP Science Writer, 03/22/00"

20 posted on 08/29/2009 5:33:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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