Posted on 08/13/2009 12:07:59 PM PDT by P.O.E.
Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible's satanic agents of the Apocalypse.
Honest. This isn't a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.
Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him:
"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."
This bizarre -- seemingly deranged -- episode happened while the White House was assembling its "coalition of the willing" to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush's call, and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs."
(Excerpt) Read more at wvgazette.com ...
INDEED.
THX
THX
You said — Though I’d think that when posting long passages of Scripture, highlighting at least in bold the phrases, sentences one wants focused on would be helpful.
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That would be a good idea... :-) Although, then I would have to start using HTML in my posting... LOL...
Kaiser Wilhelm made a speech to German soldiers going off to fight the Boxer Rebellion in China, and said:
When you come upon the enemy, smite him. Pardon will not be given. Prisoners will not be taken. Whoever falls into your hands is forfeit. Once, a thousand years ago, the Huns under their King Attila made a name for themselves, one still potent in legend and tradition. May you in this way make the name German remembered in China for a thousand years so that no Chinaman will ever again dare to even squint at a German!
The British remembered the speech later when they went to war with Germany.
I have pulled your posted Scriptures on this thread into a Word file to do just that . . . though I want to use tables and have to look up that coding.
And get ready for church men’s retreat Friday
and Chinese friends coming Sunday . . . wheeee.
May not get it done before sleep.
LUB
Here’s one more reference for you...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2315463/posts?page=2#2
TaraP gave it just a little while ago... ummmm.., well..., I just have to include the verse and the context here... :-)
Amos 9:8-15
8 “Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom, And I will destroy it from the face of the earth; Yet I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob,” Says the Lord.
9 “For surely I will command, And will sift the house of Israel among all nations, As grain is sifted in a sieve; Yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground.
10 All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, Who say, ‘The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.’
11 “On that day I will raise up The tabernacle of David, which has fallen down, And repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, And rebuild it as in the days of old;
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, And all the Gentiles who are called by My name,” Says the Lord who does this thing.
13 “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord, “When the plowman shall overtake the reaper, And the treader of grapes him who sows seed; The mountains shall drip with sweet wine, And all the hills shall flow with it.
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them,” Says the Lord your God.
And there you have it...
I read the book “The Faith of George W. Bush”.
In it they confirm that Bush went through the
entier Bible in BSF. That is at least five
years of intense Bible Study.
Yes... I believe GW would know about Gog and
Magog and would be able to speak with authority
where it concerns the Middle East.
So what if Chirac thought it was “odd”. Bush
was being obedient to God ... not Gog.
...Jo
| SCRIPTURE | Quix comment |
|---|---|
| JEREMIAH 31 | Right col. |
| 36 “If those ordinances [sun, moon, stars] depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever.” | Qx: Clearly God is being rhetorical! It is clear from the whole counsel of Scripture that the stars etc. will endure for an exceedingly long time. |
| 37 Thus says the Lord: “If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the Lord. | Qx: Again Almighty God is being rhetorical. We have hardly begun to accurately measure the entirety of the heavens . . . or even of the oceans . . . and certainly not the inner earth’s layers and dimensions with any confidence beyond arrogance. |
| 38 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that the city shall be built for the Lord from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. | Qx: 1. Those days have yet to arrive. They did NOT occur in the REPLACEMENTARIAN-RUBBER-BIBLE-MAGIC-MATRIX-YEAR OF 70AD. 2. Not built for industrialists. 3. Not built for land speculators. 4. Not built for Hilton Hotels nor even Mariott. 5. Not built for even per se the children of Jacob. 6. Certainly not built for the UN. 7. BUILT FOR THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. Hasn’t happened yet. 8. NOT SYMBOLIC. The specific area is very clearly articulated most emphatically. |
| 39 The surveyor’s line shall again extend straight forward over the hill Gareb; then it shall turn toward Goath. | Qx: Again—specific parameters are concretely, clearly, literally spelled out fairly precisely. No symbolism involved. |
| 40 And the whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields as far as the Brook Kidron, to the corner of the Horse Gate toward the east, shall be holy to the Lord. It shall not be plucked up or thrown down anymore forever.” | Qx: Hasn’t happened yet. Certainly is not set aside as holy to The Lord God Almighty yet. Imho, IIRC, the valley of the dead bodies has yet to be filled with dead bodies from the end times conflicts. I don’t think the graves overlooking the Temple mount currently count. |
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
My source who prayed with him in the White House a number of times asserted that he read Scripture and Oswald Chambers MY UTMOST FOR HIS HIGHEST daily and prayed an hour in his private quarters before beginning his day.
I’m confident my source was certain it was true as far as he knew.
Very good... :-)
THX THX.
NOt sure when I’ll get to the rest of it.
LUB
"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."
Gee. What I was hearing was that Dubya had surrounded himself with "replacement theologians" who didn't believe all that stuff. Really.
Bad eschatology has consequences.
CC to topcat54
well, we’ll just see how things turn out, won’t we?
Hello Mr Chirac, have you wondered the same about the MUSLIMS invading your country and continent?
The way y’all could solve the problem of the consequences of bad theology
would be to
ABANDON IT!
LOL.
Ah yes...., “Abandonment Theology”... :-)
| SCRIPTURE | Quix commentary |
|---|---|
| Jeremiah 31: 1 “At the same time,” says the Lord, “I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be My people.” |
Qx: 1. When? NOT during the REPLACEMENTARIAN-RUBBER-BIBLE-MAGIC-MATRIX-YEAR OF 70AD. 2. Instead, during the era when all these END TIMES EVENTS are occurring! DOH! 3. ALL the families of Israel—most logically the 12 tribes. 4. THEY SHALL BE GOD’S UNIQUE PEOPLE. It could be logically argued from the whole counsel of Scripture that somehow, the GRAFTED-IN-CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST will share in that inheritance. HOWEVER, AT LEAST, the remnant children of Jacob mentioned in these verses, MOST EMPHATICALLY DO. 5. In these verses, there’s no real mention of The Church. It could be readily argued that the EMPHASIS is on the blood children of Jacob. 6. MY PEOPLE says Almighty God. Throughout Scripture, GOD has emphasized that ISRAEL WAS HIS CHOSEN—FOR HIS GLORY. Similarly, The Church of Jesus Christ is GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL FOR HIS GLORY! 7. THIS IS GOD’S CHOICE. 8. THIS IS GOD’S PENCHANT. 9. THIS IS GOD’S PASSION. 10. THIS IS GOD’S GLORY. 11. NO—ABSOLUTELY NO hair-brained heresy from REPLACEMENTARIAN, a-mil, post-mil, preterist, run-of-the-mil RUBBER BIBLES is going to DETER GOD ALMIGHTY from ANY of HIS PLANS re HIS GLORY AND HIS CHOSEN OFF-SPRING of his Best Buddy Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. |
ABANDONMENT TO GOD
IS A VIABLE BIBLICAL PRINCIPLE.
As is . . . abandoning all hint of REPLACEMENTARIANISM & RELATED -ISM’S.
obambi is too busy apologizing to the world for the United States’ interference. s/
That’s right. I rarely see FReeper Catholics talk about end times or even believe we’re in it. Wonder why?
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