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The article is focused on hunting game for survival. A buddy of mine has an AR-7 and it is light and portable. I prefer my 10/22 though as my primary .22. Conversion sleeve sounds like a good idea but it's like using a single shot.

When I first saw the title of the article, I thought it was geared toward all survival situations. In a true long term survival situation, harvesting game is certainly top of the list. But other situations will come up also. How about a zombie invasion? SHTF and you're defending your home and family. Car load of thugs pulls up and out jumps 4 headed for your front door. Stockpile of food running low, you live near water and have plenty of ducks, geese, turkey and other foul in the area. Whitetail is abundant in your area along with other larger game.

Just my opinion but if I had to choose just one weapon to deal with a long term shtf way of life, it would be my Mossberg 500 with shot and slug barrell. Shot for self defense, foul and small game, all kinds of loads for all kinds of situations . Slug barrell for larger game which can be accurate at 100+ yards. If you have to bug out - carry the shot barrel loaded with buckshot, strap the slug barrell to your pack and hit the road.

Just my opinion.

1 posted on 08/07/2009 12:52:43 PM PDT by appleseed
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Hint: It’s right between your ears.


2 posted on 08/07/2009 12:54:22 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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If I had to pick one gun and only one gun it would be a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 or Remington 870.

Nothing beats a good shotgun in utility.


3 posted on 08/07/2009 12:55:26 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.. I am Jim Thompson.)
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The best survival weapon is the one you have in your hand when you face a survival situation.

But firepower isn’t an issue regardless of the survival gun you choose—just as long as your first aim is true.

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4 posted on 08/07/2009 12:57:10 PM PDT by appleseed
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Definitely 12 ga for the Zombies, although a case could be made for 20 gauge if you forsee an all day shoot of the fast ones.

A day of that and you can get a really bad shooting bruise with a 12 ga.

At least that’s been my experience.


5 posted on 08/07/2009 12:58:14 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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Every time I read an article from Field and Stream, I had the impression they just didn’t know that much about firearms. Weird but using terms like kickback instead of recoil? Using flat nosed .22 LR rounds? You would have to search long and hard to find flat nosed bulleted cartridges.

I have an old Charter Arms which is one of the first AR-7’s. I don’t consider it a survival tool. More like a toy from an old James Bond movie, Russia with Love to be exact.


6 posted on 08/07/2009 1:00:44 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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In a survival situation, I would think that you might not always have the time and resources to take large game, butcher it and try to preserve it. So I would think an accurate .22 for small game and maybe a .410 shotgun would be the best. Also some basic fishing gear and traps.

Not so good for the zombies though.


7 posted on 08/07/2009 1:00:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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This is your most important, most crucial, and most irreplaceable survival weapon:


9 posted on 08/07/2009 1:04:08 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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I would include a frog gig myself.


10 posted on 08/07/2009 1:04:16 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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A lot of this is very subjective and includes the environs one intends to do their surviving in, what one can shoot well, etc. No single weapon will be the ideal for both harvesting squirrel and warding off grizzly bear attacks. Concealability of a weapon may be critical in some circumstances and not an issue in others, etc. Of course one who planned ahead would start out with a good stock of ammo already laid away, but sooner or later it will exhaust itself and then either availability, foragability or reloadability of ammo becomes a consideration. While I have a few firearms that suit certain needs better than others, if I have to grab but one and make a run for it, I’m slinking away with my folding stock M1 carbine.


11 posted on 08/07/2009 1:05:13 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Nice to have a gun of any kind with ammo. But it you don’t, having a good knife will increase your chances. Especially if you have read up on making snares, figure 4 dead-fall traps etc..


12 posted on 08/07/2009 1:06:05 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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“If you’ve watched Survivorman, it’s hard to ignore the fact that Les Stroud, the star of the show, seems to starve during every episode.”

I know it! It’s very instructive to see him make the mistakes you don’t want to make but how many times is he going to say, “I shouldn’t be drinking this water without boiling it because of Giardia but I’m going to drink it anyway.”

Regardless, it’s an enjoyable show.


13 posted on 08/07/2009 1:07:16 PM PDT by james500
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I keep my stun gun with me..:)

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15 posted on 08/07/2009 1:10:09 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (United We Stand)
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If I’m choosing a .22 for survival, I’ll stick with a lightweight (stainless barrel, plastic stock) 10/22. Reliable and accurate as hell with a boatload of aftermarket items to make it smaller, lighter and more accurate.

The AR-7 is good for pilots, but I’m not a pilot, so I’ll carry the larger, more accurate 10/22.


16 posted on 08/07/2009 1:13:46 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Gold coins and a canteen.


17 posted on 08/07/2009 1:16:30 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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For the long haul, wouldn’t a bow gun be better so the arrows can be retrieved and re-used?


20 posted on 08/07/2009 1:17:38 PM PDT by FTJM
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My choice: the Savage 24F-20 chambered in 20GA and .223:

Carry 20 rounds of 223 - it'll take everything from a rabbit to a white tail deer without much damage to the meat, and 20 rounds are small and light. And it will stop a man out at a good range (as far as I'd want to have to shoot; if I can't avoid a confrontation at a distance of 150+ yards, then I'm doing something wrong!)

Then carry 20 shells of 20 GA - 6 of 00 buck, and 14 of #6 birdshot. The buck for bigger beasts (including those that walk on 2 legs), and the birdshot for, well, birds.

All together, with a decent 4x32 scope, you should be right around 10 pounds and have enough "firepower" to feed yourself for a VERY long time!

21 posted on 08/07/2009 1:17:45 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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.350 Remington Magnum??????????????????

After his first box of twenty is depleted, what does he expect to do?

He mentions he has a sleeve to use what he calls. .38 Auto???????????????????

This guy is supposed to be a gun writer? Where do I sign up?


25 posted on 08/07/2009 1:24:07 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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.410 double barrel


27 posted on 08/07/2009 1:25:10 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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Something you may want to consider:



This is the Crosman Quest 1000X.

Power Source Spring Caliber .177 (4.5 mm)
Velocity up to 1000 fps (304.8 m/s)
Weight 6lbs .32oz
Length 45in


I use this as a pest control weapon and basement practice. The Crosman was easy to site and ammo is very cheap and diverse. There is some noise, but otherwise it is very quiet in comparison to powder. It is a bit heavy at 6lbs, but much more accurate than the pistol. This is very good for small game. Larger game in a survival situation would ultimately be wasted by spoilage. I like it and would recommend it. 250 pellets come in a chew size container.
28 posted on 08/07/2009 1:27:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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Ruger single action revolver. Comes with two cylinders, .22 LR, and .22 Mag..I’d go with the papoose over the AR-7. And if I was up to the weight of the Browning or Marlin takedown 22s, I’d skip that feature, and go with a Henry. Well made, accurate, and cheaper. Or I’d get one of those combo rifle/shotguns, maybe .22/410, or .223/ 20 or 12 gage.


29 posted on 08/07/2009 1:27:16 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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