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Russia acts against 'false' history
BBC News ^ | Friday, 24 July 2009 | By James Rodgers

Posted on 07/31/2009 6:51:58 AM PDT by metesky

This is what appears to anger today's Russian historical establishment: accounts of Red Army crimes on the march to Berlin; assertions by the Baltic countries and others in Eastern Europe that Soviet forces came as occupiers as much as liberators; any suggestion that Stalin's Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were anything but complete opposites and bitter enemies.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: academicbias; coldwar; communismkills; orwelliannightmare; pravdamedia; revisionism; revisionisthistory; russian; sovietunion; stalinisttactics; theredmenace; thoughtcrime; usefulidiots; ussr; wwii
Can Soviet history be disconnected from Russian history?

I don't think so.

1 posted on 07/31/2009 6:51:59 AM PDT by metesky
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To: metesky

The Russian Army used rape as a weapon to control civilian populations in eastern Europe. I suppose this factoid will be written out of history...


2 posted on 07/31/2009 7:06:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: metesky
"Russia's leaders today know that they need this shining, sacred, memory of victory to give their people something to believe in."

Sad that this is all they have to be proud of in the last 100 years. We take pride in our military victories, but also our freedoms and comfortable life that those freedoms generate. If you look at the history of Russia, it's little but tyranny, brutality, and poverty.

3 posted on 07/31/2009 7:12:40 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: metesky
...assertions by the Baltic countries and others in Eastern Europe that Soviet forces came as occupiers as much as liberators...

Da! Liberation! Occupation! It's a fine line comrade! Well, except that there is that pesky fact that they occupied many of the countries that they "liberated," for 45 years. Hmmm....

4 posted on 07/31/2009 7:21:10 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Fill your hands you sons of bitches!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“rape as a weapon”

Read Cornelius Ryan’s “The Final Battle, the Siege of Berlin 1945”

What the Russian leadership of today cannot do is suppress ninety years of Western historiography concerning Russia, the USSR, and communism.

If they go back to Great Soviet Encyclopedia style revisionism, Russia will return to its Cold War era isolation from the West. Bad news all around.


5 posted on 07/31/2009 7:52:01 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: metesky
Soviet Communism ... German Fascism ....

What's the difference except the German's were ahead of the curve and a bit more efficient?

schu

6 posted on 07/31/2009 8:10:37 AM PDT by schu
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To: metesky

Revisionist history means never having to learn from the lessons of the past.

Socialism is built on lies.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 8:54:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: metesky
Can Soviet history be disconnected from Russian history?

No nation can say history, history, history, 80 year blank spot, history, history, history.

Especially when that 80 year history is also the history of the world suffering it's greatest horror's and evils.

The USSR was actually worse than Hitler and Nazism and it isn't over yet, a quarter of the world's population is still under the domination of communism, we still don't know when the legacy of the USSR will end, or if it will at all. Actually their legacy will live on forever, you cannot resurrect the dead or their possibilities if they had lived, or what America would be like if the USSR had not existed and reshaped our nation or the nations they conquered.

8 posted on 07/31/2009 10:41:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: metesky
In August there will be such a yelling about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, saying that that was the step that led to the Second World War, and that Germany and the Soviet Union were two equal, disgusting, totalitarian monsters...

Not equal. The Soviet Union was much worse. BTT.

9 posted on 07/31/2009 11:02:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: metesky

I saw the story on wp.com when they first made the complaint. One of the things the Russian historians objected to was the falsehood that they had attacked Poland, when in reality (!), the Poles and their German allies attacked the Soviet Union.

No, I am not making it up. Admittedly, I am no scholar at reading Polish, so I ran the page through google translator. While that leaves much to be desired, the gist of it was there.

Saturday was the anniversary of the Warsaw uprising, when a quarter of a million people died trying to chase out the Nazis, and the Red army camped on the other side of the Vistula, waiting for the Germans to defeat people who wanted freedom, and would have opposed communism and Stalin as strongly as they did Hitler.

I expect to learn that Obama has hired these historians to explain away the Bill of Rights.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 10:02:23 PM PDT by womanvet (Darn it, I forgot my best tag line - oh, yeah, the lesser of two evils is STILL evil..)
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