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Mac flaw could let hackers get scrambled data
Reuters ^ | Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:13pm EDT | By Jim Finkle

Posted on 07/29/2009 5:27:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker

* Mac expert shows how hackers can steal encrypted data

* Demonstrates method at conference for security experts

LAS VEGAS, July 29 (Reuters) - A Mac security expert has uncovered a technique that hackers could use to take control of Apple Inc (AAPL.O) computers and steal data that is scrambled to protect it from identity thieves.

Prominent Mac researcher Dino Dai Zovi disclosed the software flaw at the Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas, one of the world's top forums for exchanging information on Internet threats.

About 4,000 security professionals are in attendance, including some who are really hackers. While experts ferret out software flaws to fix them and protect users, hackers use the same information to devise pranks or commit crimes.

Attacks on Apple computers are extremely rare, but security experts say that will change as Macs gain market share on PCs running Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Windows operating system

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: blackhat; hackers; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys; security

1 posted on 07/29/2009 5:27:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Aliska; aristotleman; ...
Black Hat convention attendees show how to hack a Mac and get scrambled data... PING!


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2 posted on 07/29/2009 5:28:12 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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"The technique -- dubbed "Machiavelli" -- exploits a vulnerability in the Mac OS X kernel, the heart of the machine's operating system. It only works on machines that have already been victimized, such as ones attacked with the pirated software. It can take control of Apple's Safari browser, logging passwords to financial accounts and data on bank statements, Dai Zovi said."
In other words, the target Mac has to have been previously compromised and ROOT turned on before this vulnerability is actually exploitable. That is a rare bird, er, Mac, indeed. Since they are talking about a previous compromise that means a trojan... and the user would have to install it.
3 posted on 07/29/2009 5:31:25 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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Sure, I always su to root whenever some hacker emails me a Mac executable.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 5:38:19 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Sure, I always su to root whenever some hacker emails me a Mac executable.

You too? I just opened a telnet port, enabled root with the password "password" and posted my IP to the hacker forums.

I'm going to complain that Mac security sucks when I get hacked.

5 posted on 07/29/2009 5:55:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker
A Mac security expert has uncovered a technique that hackers could use to take control of Apple Inc (AAPL.O) computers and steal data that is scrambled to protect it from identity thieves.

Is it just me, or does the above sentence read like it was passed thru a Babelfish translator?

6 posted on 07/29/2009 6:10:48 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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Attacks on Apple computers are extremely rare, but security experts say that will change as Macs gain market share on PCs running Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Windows operating system

How many times have I read this?

If I'm reading this correctly, the exploit has to already be installed? I thought the point of security was to keep the exploit from being installed. You can deliberately install programs that will do anything to your computer.

7 posted on 07/29/2009 6:19:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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Attacks on Apple computers are extremely rare, but security experts say that will change as Macs gain market share on PCs running Microsoft Corp's Windows operating system
Seems like I've heard that before. For years. And years.
8 posted on 07/29/2009 6:55:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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A Mac security expert has uncovered a technique that hackers could use to take control of Apple Inc (AAPL.O)


9 posted on 07/29/2009 7:23:17 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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> Sure, I always su to root whenever some hacker emails me a Mac executable.

You have just received the Amish virus.

We do not have any computers or programming experience, so this virus works on the Honor System.
Please delete all the files from your hard drive, and manually forward this virus to everyone in your address book.

Thanks for your cooperation,
The Amish Computer Engineering Department


10 posted on 07/29/2009 8:33:39 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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>> Attacks on Apple computers are extremely rare, but security experts say that will change as Macs gain market share on PCs running Microsoft Corp's Windows operating system

> Seems like I've heard that before. For years. And years.

Yep. Ya know, the smartest thing Microsoft could do, to improve Windows' image with regard to security holes, would be to let Apple gain, say, 50% market share, so that OS-X would have an equal number of viruses.

Uh-huh...

What's the threshold? 20%? 30%? When does the market share of the Mac reach the level where these tech-press twits admit it's enough?

There are about 35,000,000 Macs out on the internet, and approximately 0.1% of them have any anti-virus protection. And most of their users are non-techies. Who run with administrative privilege.

"Macs are not a target"??? Uh-huh... They're just not an easy target.

11 posted on 07/29/2009 8:40:32 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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