Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]

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[nw_arizona_granny]

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Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance

[nw_arizona_granny]

You are welcome, thanks for coming and reading them.

[nw_arizona_granny]

OPEN not restrictive googles sometimes return all manner of “treasures.” :)<<<

LOL, yes I am still bored by strict result searches, so much so that I don’t do them with much success.

With my way, I go and read far more subjects than I would, by doing the proper searches.

And I always did get bored easily.

[nw_arizona_granny]

The Potato Blight is more closely related to the malaria parasite than to anything fungal — who knows? Perhaps I read it HERE, first, I just don’t remember.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=potato+blight+malaria

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Interesting and that puts it in the terror class in a hurry.

There was a ProMed release yesterday for Malaria, they found the strange mosquito and declared that I had come from that same shipment of tires, that we talked of on the Threat Matrix, tires stacked on the open deck, rain water caught inside them and the malaria bearing mosquito traveled to us.

[hennie pennie]

During the fall and winter the frozen individual vegetables are mixed with fresh carrots and potatoes and defrosted - some are then canned the balance is then re-frozen and packaged.

I'm speechless.

Well... maybe not.

QUESTION: This is the commercial process followed to produce cans of Veg-All, canned mixed veggies, and frozen mixed-vegetables???

omg.

[bgill]

It just occurred to me today that I still haven’t seen any coverage in the MSM why we are having so many H1N1 cases in the USA, at a time when much of the population would still have relatively high levels of Vitamin D, still stored from the summer sun.

How long does Vit D stay in your body? I'm thinking many are having colds and allergies but jumping to the conclusion it's H1N1. Many here are having sinus and allergy problems due to the wet weather. The weather is still nice in most of the country allowing kids to play outside. School fall sports are in full swing so they're outside. I was just thinking today that when football and such ends in a couple weeks, we'll be seeing more cases. I know that our schools have put the foaming soap (more fun, more will use) in the restrooms and every classroom has Germ-X which kids are using. However, a couple weeks ago, there were 7-9 absences in each class period. Now, it's back down to the normal 1-2 absences.

[DelaWhere]

>>>QUESTION: This is the commercial process followed to produce cans of Veg-All, canned mixed veggies, and frozen mixed-vegetables???<<<

LOL, stop and think about it... those veggies don’t all mature at the same time...

[nw_arizona_granny]

[LOL, I jumped around on those googles and found this 2007 report on the threat to our food supplies, a very accurate one...granny]

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache%3AT4sbdHz81y8J%3Awww.asisonline.org%2Fcouncils%2Fdocuments%2FTERROct2007Newsletter.pdf+new+york+food+terrorism+arrests&hl=en&gl=us

Global Terrorism, Political Instability and
International Crime Council
October 2007
Welcome to the second edition of the quarterly newsletter of the Global
Terrorism, Political Instability and International Crime Council.
The lead article is an insightful analysis by Council member Dr. Robin
McFee DO, MPH, FACPM on the challenge of tainted products
manufactured overseas. Her article provides the kind of practical advice
ASIS members need to safeguard their corporations, agencies,
communities and families.
This edition features the following articles:
•
Terrorism expert, and Council member, Jim Dunne
summarizes three seminal books on terrorism that should
be on every security professional’s bookshelf. (See page 3)
•
Council members Doug Callen, Dr. Dick Ward, Britt Mallow,
Michael Bouchard, (former Council chair) Dr. Kathleen L.
Kiernan, Dr. Robin McFee and Mario Possamai are making
timely presentations on leading security issues. Their
presentations are summarized beginning on page 3.

continues.

[bgill]

That reminds me - anyone else notice an allergic reaction in your dogs that eat the brown bag type of Purina One? Sorry, I don’t know which flavor because I didn’t realize it was the food causing the problem until I threw the empty bag out and began feeding them another brand. They had been scratching like crazy for weeks and I thought it was fleas and spent $$$$ on treatment which wasn’t working. Our big boy had chewed though his back skin and it was getting nasty. They were both miserable. It wasn’t until they were eating another brand of dry food that they quit the scratching. Odd that they BOTH had the same reaction so I don’t think it was from the basic grains and meat but from some additive or possible pesticide. I used to trust Purina but after this I’ll never buy it again.

[hennie pennie]

I’ve read that the ONLY strain of flu currently occurring in the USA is the H1N1 strain; e.g., there is no Influenza-A at present, nor any other strain of flu.

This flu is recently associated with rapid onset severe aching muscles, horrid cough & sore throat and a temperature spike. People who have those symptoms are told that they have H1N1, because there is no other flu currently around.

Last summer, they were even closing down summer camps for kids, due to outbreaks of H1N1 - and surely a child attending summer camp has maximal daily dosages of natural sunlight Vitamin D.

It would be interesting, though, to find out what is the incidence of the H1N1 among people who have supplemented with Vit. D-3 for years & years.

And perhaps those same individuals, saturated with Vitamin D3 are the same ones who are reported such minor symptoms associated with their H1N1 infections.

[bgill]

Our picky cat loooves spaghetti sauce. In fact, she’s sitting here waiting for me to finish a bowl of ravioli so she can have the leftovers. She also must have her green olives previously chewed and the pimento discarded (the two legged kids do this for her highness).

The dogs usually aren’t usually picky but they refuse to eat chips without dip. And the hotter and spicier the better.

[hennie pennie]

>>>QUESTION: This is the commercial process followed to produce cans of Veg-All, canned mixed veggies, and frozen mixed-vegetables???<<<

LOL, stop and think about it... those veggies don't all mature at the same time...

Yes, what you say makes perfect sense -- and for me, anyways, the process of producing the frozen version of the Mixed Vegetables sounds even worse than the canned version. LOL!

ONE time I bought a generic store brand of mixed veggies -- when I opened them up, I simply stared at the contents -- they looked so weird and strange, and ... this was after the corn was being burned for ethanol -- inside my generic can of mixed veggies were THREE, (yes: 3 - count 'em! 1,2,3!) Kernals of Corn, several very strange misshapen pieces of potato, several chunks of carrots and almost a third a cup of green peas.

I threw it away.

A rare occurrence in this household.

Anyway, several times a year, I will purchase TWO cans of Veg-All for the emergency storage supplies --- Veg-All has always looked the same each time I've opened the can, and although canned veggies are nothing to write home about, the consistency of the contents of ALL the cans of Veg-All I've purchase reassures me that it's safe to eat.

I want it for EMERGENCIES, as it's so convenient to add one can of Veg-All to any other can of soup or stew and tone down that peculiar "manufactured" taste that seems to accompany all commercially canned products.

I rotate the Veg-All by using it in home made soup, so I have no idea how long cans of it really last.

And I never buy more than 6 of the same item of anything anymore, as there are simply too many recalls -- what would one do in an emergency with defective or bad food stores??? That could be life threatening.

A few years ago the U.S. Army opened up a large number of canned food goods from the 1970s (I think) -- and they were amazed to find out that they were perfectly fine to eat, and that the nutritional content, ([what little it probably was, originally, lol]) had not substantially changed at all. I believe that the cans of food were over 30 years old.

[bgill]

Okey, dokey. If there have been 1000 deaths from swine flu in the US and 5000 in the world, then something is seriously wrong with our medical treatment of it or someone is fudging the numbers. 1 in 5 deaths are in the US. Things that make you go hmmmm.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_he_me/us_obama_swine_flu;_ylt=A0wNdPAVYuNKgfEATQCKOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTJsa2s4NG4xBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMDI0L3VzX29iYW1hX3N3aW5lX2ZsdQRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNvYmFtYWRlY2xhcmU-

[bgill]

Our rock club says never lick a green rock.

[hennie pennie]

Here's a story allegedly from 1919 - anyone hear about using ONIONS to prevent contracting influenza?

One curious thing is that I thought the FLU was viral, and surely way back in 1919 there was no kind of microscrope with the resolution capability to detect a virus.

Here's the URL:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2369994/replies?c=222

The doctor came upon this one farmer and to his surprise, everyone was very healthy. When the doctor asked what the farmer was doing that was different the wife replied that she had placed an unpeeled onion in a dish in the rooms of the home, (probably only two rooms back then).

The doctor couldn't believe it and asked if he could have one of the onions and place it under the microscope....

[Eagle50AE]

Here's a link to an article Titled:

President Obama declares national emergency over swine flu pandemic; but why?

Saturday, October 24, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

http://www.naturalnews.com/027323_swine_flu_national_emergency_pandemic.html

(excerpt):

Even though the H1N1 pandemic appears to have peaked out, U.S. President Barack Obama has now declared a national emergency over swine flu infections. The reasoning behind such a declaration? According to the White House, it's designed to “allow hospitals to better handle the surge in patients” by allowing them to bypass certain federal laws.

Emergency powers trump the Bill of Rights

That's the public explanation for this, but the real agenda behind this declaration may be far more sinister. Declaring a national emergency immediately gives federal authorities dangerous new powers that can now be enforced at gunpoint, including:

• The power to force mandatory swine flu vaccinations on the entire population.

• The power to arrest, quarantine or “involuntarily transport” anyone who refuses a swine flu vaccination.

• The power to quarantine an entire city and halt all travel in or out of that city.

• The power to enter any home or office without a search warrant and order the destruction of any belongings or structures deemed to be a threat to public health.

• The effective nullification of the Bill of Rights. Your right to due process, to being safe from government search and seizure, and to remain silent to avoid self-incrimination are all null and void under a Presidential declaration of a national emergency.

End Excerpt)

FINAL POINTS:

(1) Chatter about “Hugh” and “series” announcement tomorrow 10/25/09.. chatter,chatter but no confirmation..

(2) Tomorrow's Sunday Morning Talk Shows “DO NOT Include ANY Administration Officials” as of earlier this am (per FOX NEWS)

Strange ???

[Eagle50AE]

Things to Watch for During a “ Declared National Emergency “

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/16142

[DelaWhere]

Millennium-Ark.net

PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!

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Swine flu is now as widespread (brown) in the U.S. – as much as normally seen during peak winter levels of seasonal flu. Oct. 24, Pres. Obama declared H1N1 a national emergency. Parallel to a 90% vaccine shortfall, interest rose in taking the shot. Nothing creates demand like scarcity. Since it takes at least 2 weeks for immunity to develop – and factoring in another 2 months for full vaccine distribution – it will be way too late to aid prevention.

Panicked people are even purchasing this preventative off the Net from foreign countries. We have only to remember China's melamine-food debacle two years ago to see this may not be smart. You also have to decide if you're OK with mercury in the vaccine.

With a clear relationship established between pneumonia and swine flu, one option is to get a pneumonia shot. They last at least 5-7 years – some provide lifetime protection – and may fight off the worst swine flu complications. Since half of H1N1 victims drown in lung fluid, this would seem a clever move. Stan and I took pneumonia shots two years ago with no side effects, not even a sore arm.

If you're wary of the H1N1 vax, consider this shot combined with good hygiene and proper pandemic precautions. A month ago I noted that Lysol is a tool of good hygiene and kills 99.9% of flu viruses. Lysol now incorporates this message into their ads. These measures allow you to ride out the flu season without questionable vaccines or panic.

Here's the new takeaway: We don't know if this National Emergency declaration sets the stage for quarantine or what. Though just 1,000 people have died from swine flu in the U.S., CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden states that "many millions" have been infected. This is just the first wave of H1N1. Should this disease mutate into a more deadly form for the next round, it could deliver devastating blows, which was the case during the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. As discussed in Dare To Prepare if enough people become ill, it has the potential to affect utilities operations (water, sewer, etc.), food and fuel transport, garbage removal, and every other critical infrastructure area we depend on daily. It would be extremely clever to make sure you have plenty of water, food, medical supplies on hand. Don't forget your pets. Florida already has plans in place to turn people away from hospitals should the flu scenario overwhelm them. Plan to be at home unless you are extremely ill. There are no excuses to leave yourself vulnerable. Get ready now.

	OCTOBER 24
	Obama Declares Swine Flu a National Emergency
	Swine Flu Vaccine Shortage Causes Massive Backlog
	October Flu Cases at Winter Peak Levels
	Increase in Flu Is Called Dramatic
	WHO: Nearly 5000 Swine Flu Deaths Worldwide

[Velveeta]

“This is a POWER Play..”

You bet it is! I can’t think of a more frightening time in the history of the US, than now.

Time to read through appalachian_dweller’s home page which is host to emergency survival tips put together over the years by FReepers. Naturally, many of the suggestions were Granny’s.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~appalachiandweller/index?U=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerepublic.com%2Ffocus%2Fnews%2F2370233%2Fposts%3Fpage%3D13

[Eagle50AE]

>>> I can’t think of a more frightening time in the history of the US, than now. <<<

From Sept 9.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/swine_flu_path_to_martial_law.html

[girlangler]

“Beer will be a fabulous barter item during the coming collapse.”

Never thought about it this way Lurker, but you are right.

Diana, when you make it to Tennessee, we can start our own business with your brewing knowledge. Kind of like my Grandpa McCoy’s business during Prohibition — only he made moonshine.