Posted on 07/05/2009 10:24:13 AM PDT by Bob J
Sarah is now unelectable on a national stage. The “quitter” specter will hang around her neck like “swimmer” does to Ted Kennedy.
You’ll be able to spot the realistic, clear thinking conservatives because they see and admit this early so we can put it behind us get on with identifying the candidates who can win in ‘12.
BTW - This doesn’t rule out a tangential private career ala Newt or a run for a House or Senate seat (although I don’t know where at this point) but as a national candidate she is toast.
That so many conservatives can’t see this is one of the reasons we lose so often...in campaigns and ideology.
It’s quite sad but something I’ve learned to live with. At one point I thought the conservative cause in this country could be galvanized around solid principles, sober and realistic goals and turned into an effective winning strategy and movement. But I’ve come to realize too many voluntarily ignore the ugly realities of politics and put their faith in Hail Mary passes, and frankly, are just too lazy for the time and effort needed to bring this country back to where they profess they want it to be.
“Nixon done and out in the Eisenhower administration. “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.( actually earlier )”
Nixon said that in 1962 after losing the governor’s race in California. He had huge bills to pay, wanted to get away from it all for awhile.
After awhile he joined a law firm in New York. Closer to the power brokers of America. Got a big salary. Then barnstormed for Republican candidates around the country. It took awhile, but he was a fighter, and came back.
A false choice is a false choice and doesn’t make you more credible. The country is more liberal than desirable and more stupid than desirable and more ignorant than desirable. But the choice is not between conservatism and marxism and it comes across as silly, manipulative and dishonest when you do what you did,,present a false choice,,your argument is lame.
Loser.
I can't think of any candidate that quit their day job three years before an election in which they intend to run in, and then win that election, or any other for that matter.
Dole did resign his Senate seat just before the first primary, I believe (could be wrong), but that was his fourth or fifth term and he was a very, very old man. And, he lost.
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy - they all were either gainfully employed when they were elected, or they had finished the obligation of their previously elected positions. If you can think of anyone else, I'm all ears.
Love her, rin....but there are no guarantees that she’ll run for national office - or anything else for that matter. And of course, if she does - she’ll be up against the same thing we’re up against - countrymen who are deluded.
You're making the same mistake as most of the media and the people here that are knocking Sarah - the last election was NOT Palin vs Obama, it was McCain vs Obama. Had it been Palin vs Obama and she had taken the gloves off and exposed Obama for who he truly is, I think you might have seen different results!
I'm not projecting what I want to be true. I'm drawing a conclusion based on the exit poll results. Most polls had at least 60% of the American electorate saying Sarah Palin was not qualified to be Vice President. By comparison, 70% of that same electorate thought Joe Biden was qualified to be Vice President. I'm presuming if they didn't think Palin was qualified to be VP, they wouldn't have thought she was ready to be President.
Also, while McCain polled well amongst independents and an individual candidate, Palin didn't poll as well with independents, and women strangely enough.
Using this logic then, McCain would have won had he had someone more senior and accomplished (Ridge, Lieberman, Romney) than Palin. You couldn't be more incorrect.
Obama won in large part because he promoted conservative themes (95% of Americans getting tax cuts, change and transparency, etc) and that the head of the Republican ticket was bland and uninspiring.
Whether I think Palin was qualified, or if a blue-chip education is important or if her short amount of tenure in a sparsely populated state was adequate, is immaterial.
So why'd you mention it then?
The American people have already spoken.
No, they spoken to end 8 years of stagnate Bush policies that failed to inspire them. It was mainly a vote that said if we're going to go down the socialist drain, might as well be quick and painless instead of the dicking around Republicans were offering. A lot of these voters are now having 2nd thoughts about Obama, and this is where Palin comes in with an articulate conservative agenda.
Exit polls clearly stated that the overwhelming majority of Americans didn't believe she was qualified for VP.
From what a--hole did you pull this out of?
Now, you can disagree and make your case that she was qualified, but you can't disagree that the American people didn't think she was qualified.
What Palin did was provide a badly-needed conservative spark to the GOP and to the base who weren't inclined to vote for McCain. The qualification issue really didn't play a role in anything at all except to leftists who hate her anyway.
When you ignore incontrovertible facts in favor of your own beliefs, you're beginning to engage in idol worship.
No idol worship going on at all. I see Palin as someone who can clearly articulate the conservative agenda, someone who is not part of the Washington elite and is talking to middle America. If there's any other Republican who can do this, I'd support him/her as well. You just don't realize that many people are fed up with Washington and the same-old same-old anymore. Just remember that Ron Paul had tons of supporters too, and he's a 73 year old great-grandfather who's a Congresscritter. It's all about the message, not about qualifications or how long someone has served in office.
Then, what are the choices?
Again, you assume that she's going to run for President when no one knows what's going to happen. You also forget the fact that she is putting her state and residents ahead of her personal ambitions. That's called integrity and it will only strengthen her over time.
You know the choices.
Thanks.
You phony so called Republican...can almost spot you folks a mile away
could you maybe be on the Acorn or what ever their new name is payroll???
You are correct on this. Any ideas on how we can educate the sheeple?
Thanks, for your politically tone-deaf analysis.
Sarah Palin is the only reason McCain did as well as he did, but conservatives are going to need ten thousand Sarah Palins if we are going to take the country back. I just think people have invested too much hope in one person.
It's called the internet. What an invention. You can try some of these links...
Brownstein On The Palin Dilemma
Exit polls: Obama wins big among young, minority voters
Inside Obama's Sweeping Victory
Sarah Palin Demurs on 2012 Presidential Bid, Exit Polls Show McCain Help
I'll include a quote from Lifenews.com, a very conservative website, that acknowledged...
"Another 60 percent said Palin wasn't qualified to become president, but Palin would have four years to convince voters she is more qualified to serve and possibly four more years under her belt as governor.",
When, as I said, 60% of the electorate doesn't think you were qualified to be president, you are a drag on the ticket. There's just no other way to color it. If you have statistical information to the contrary, I'd enjoy reading it. I've looked extensively myself for such information, and have not been able to find it.
Ron Paul had "tons of supporters?" Relative to what. Yes, Ron Paul had supporters, and they were incredibly vocal. But, they were statistically insignificant and immaterial.
Finally, I mentioned not what I thought about Palin, but what the larger American public thinks about Palin. I think that would be germane to a discussion of Palin's future political viability. Apparently, you don't. That's fine.
No I don’t. I thought I did, but you called me dishonest for presenting them.
The public education system, the media, and lazy parents have created a culture that only recognizes extremes. You are either in favor of destroying business with environmental regulation or you want children to drink water with feces. You believe in late-term abortions or you want women to carry the children of their rapist to term and then raise the child. The Left has won control of our government by only projecting extremes and that resonates with the dumb masses.
But, conservatives always take the high road. We moan about how bad Ann Coulter is when she upsets the Left. We won’t get down in the ditch with the Left and slug it out. For the average fence-sitter, that makes us appear weak and most fence-sitters are just waiting for a winner to support.
You called me dishonest for only presenting the extremes. It’s intentionally dishonest, but only when viewed from our side. We are in a street fight and we’re fighting like we’re in a boxing ring. They kick and gouge and we cry foul as we bleed to death. I’m tired of getting our asses kicked when its so easy to fight back using their own rules. Their policies can’t survive the light of day and we won’t even call them what they are because that would be unsportsmanlike.
Most liberals don’t know that they’re Marxists, and that’s why its our job to point out that they are. Call it an “intervention”. You don’t convince a drug abuser to seek help by telling him that he’s not really addicted, but he just spends too much money on drugs.
And exit polls concluded that Al Gore had been elected president! So much for faith in exit polls.
You don't make a very compelling argument against exit polls - these aren't the snapshots that networks used in real time to call an election as it unfolded. These are the polls that are taken, compiled and analyzed some time later. It's called political science.
If you you're going to join the flat-Earthers that think political science and polling is a big sham, you're not going to be taken seriously by this Goldwater Republican. Conclusions based on science and statistics are my friend, even if they're not yours.
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