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Get Over it, Sarah is gone as a National Candidate
vanity | 7-5-09 | Bob J

Posted on 07/05/2009 10:24:13 AM PDT by Bob J

Sarah is now unelectable on a national stage. The “quitter” specter will hang around her neck like “swimmer” does to Ted Kennedy.

You’ll be able to spot the realistic, clear thinking conservatives because they see and admit this early so we can put it behind us get on with identifying the candidates who can win in ‘12.

BTW - This doesn’t rule out a tangential private career ala Newt or a run for a House or Senate seat (although I don’t know where at this point) but as a national candidate she is toast.

That so many conservatives can’t see this is one of the reasons we lose so often...in campaigns and ideology.

It’s quite sad but something I’ve learned to live with. At one point I thought the conservative cause in this country could be galvanized around solid principles, sober and realistic goals and turned into an effective winning strategy and movement. But I’ve come to realize too many voluntarily ignore the ugly realities of politics and put their faith in Hail Mary passes, and frankly, are just too lazy for the time and effort needed to bring this country back to where they profess they want it to be.


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To: Bob J

We’ll see Bob. I’m taking her at her word.


241 posted on 07/05/2009 12:46:13 PM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: meyer

I disagree with that.
Newt has always been a pragmatist, and he figured out, unlike other Republicans, that if you don’t offer alternatives to the Democrats’ environmental policies, then they will get their policies passed in full. The political process works under the Hegelian Dialectic: thesis, antithesis, synthesis. If no antithesis is offered, then the thesis is not subject to synthesis.

Newt sat on that couch with Nancy Pelosi not to endorse her proposals, but to offer his own counter-proposals. Newt has offered cost-neutral free-market alternatives to Cap’n Tax.

And 50% of Republicans believe in Global Warming™ to some degree. John McCain, who is a full fledged, true believer in Global Warming™ and a proponent of Cap’n Tax managed to get the GOP nomination. So there is no reason to think that Newt’s common sense alternatives to the Democrats’ plans would penalize him in the GOP primaries, much less end his run.


242 posted on 07/05/2009 12:46:19 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Bob J
You're 100% right, Bob. But people became so emotionally invested in her it's hard for them to realize what happened and process it.

In the end she wasn't Joan of Arc, she was a bright, talented, refreshing possibility, but with four children and a new baby to protect from the destroyers.

I sat with my mouth open during her speech, but now I'm relieved she's taken the target off her back.

243 posted on 07/05/2009 12:50:25 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rbmillerjr

244 posted on 07/05/2009 12:50:26 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Lisa Murkowski is extremely popular in Alaska.
The popularity figures are correct. 70% approval for her rating vs. Sarah Palin’s 54% (and dropping). Look it up.

So for anyone who thinks Sarah’s future might include a primary challenge for Murkowski’s Senate seat, think again.

Sarah quit the governorship because she’s quitting Alaska.
Packing up the Dude and kids to seek out her fortune in Washington, D.C.

The Ultimate Outsider has wanted to become an insider ever since she got bitten by the national politics bug when she signed on with McCain. She won’t be going there to run for office though. There are lots of lucrative options for a former pol there, especially one that is a hot commodity.


245 posted on 07/05/2009 12:54:03 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
You can’t quit as President just because the press is roughing you up.

#1 - She gave no indication that she is running for President.
#2 - She is putting Alaska and the taxpayers AHEAD of her ambitions, that's called integrity.

246 posted on 07/05/2009 12:54:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: nathanbedford
"I know of no one but Gingrich who has a chance to do it."

You've made several very, very good points. But, like you, I just don't think Gingrich can do it given his "growing" stature, physical not intellectual. Plus, his personal problems make him a non-starter for the SoCons.

I would add Haley Barbour to your very short list. Sure, he comes off initially as a good ole' boy, but he is equally as intellectual as Gingrich, without the personal problems. And, yes he was a lobbyist. But, it's been less than 6 months into Barry's administration and he has COMPLETELY walked back all his self-imposed exclusions of lobbyists working in his administration. It would be tough to criticize Barbour when he has now surrounded himself with quasi-Wall street lobbyists in his entire economic team.

I'm going to wait until the primaries to pick a horse, as my original pick decided to go on a south-of-the-border love fest. But, with or without Palin, I don't believe things are nearly as dire as some would pretend, or hope.

247 posted on 07/05/2009 12:54:15 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Bob J

“The Swimmer” won election after election, let’s hope she is like the Swimmer when it comes to winning elections. Class dismissed.

Next


248 posted on 07/05/2009 12:56:55 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Proudly residing in Dar-al-Harb since 1959)
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To: Republic

LOL! I’m sorry! I’ll quit! I’ll quit! :-)


249 posted on 07/05/2009 12:57:16 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: filbert
Don’t people realize that you don’t need to hold political office to be a leader?

Bears repeating

250 posted on 07/05/2009 12:58:29 PM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: beaversmom
I’m not in love with Sarah Palin

Yikes, I hope not...being "in love" with a pol one barely knows is never wise, and I doubt if 99.9% of Freepers are (as they are accused of when defending her).

I always wait until after all the primary debates to make a decision. In 2000 I liked Forbes and GWB, in 2008 I likes RG and FT.

But I always defend ALL of our candidates against the MSM/DNC/Hollywood/Academia war room, as we all should.
251 posted on 07/05/2009 12:59:01 PM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: Bob J
This doesn’t rule out a tangential private career ala Newt or a run for a House or Senate seat (although I don’t know where at this point) but as a national candidate she is toast.

Bob, what do you think of her chosen to be VP last year is? The last time I looked, the Vice-President is a national office. So she's not good enough to be president but she's good enough to be VP? This is the same faulty logic Hillary used on Obama last year which backfired on her.

Also you conveniently ignore the fact why she resigned. If you had to deal with bogus ethics charges that prevented you from doing your job, what are you going to do? If you fight them, they'll say that you're ignoring you job anyway.

252 posted on 07/05/2009 1:00:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: roses of sharon
I’m confused by all the confusion among the chattering classes about Palin. I thought her press conference explained it very clearly – though she couldn’t put it precisely this way without sounding vain, but it’s obvious.

You are correct. The chattering knowthings are the ones who are confused. They don't listen and thus can't understand.

Even though she’s just a state governor, she’s a HUGE national star who is both sought after and attacked as if she is already a president (a Bush, not an Obama). But she basically can’t participate because she’s tethered to the governor’s office up in Alaska. Consequently, she has to fight with one hand tied behind her back and she also can’t go around the country campaigning for candidates and principles she believes in – because she’s governor and would be accused of neglecting the state.

Exactly.

She has placed the state on a firm foundation and the Governor's office in competent hands and has chosen not to collect a paycheck from the Alaskans while she is putting her efforts in another direction. To me that is an honorable and principled decision. And for doing that she is attacked???? Those who accuse her for doing the right thing here are exhibiting their own dearth of principles.

253 posted on 07/05/2009 1:01:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Bob J
That so many don’t understand what Chappaquidic did to TK’s national political prospects underscores the lack of political understanding among so many conservatives and why time after time we pick the wrong candidates to back.

LOL. That's a specious comparison of biblical proportions.

254 posted on 07/05/2009 1:02:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I am not disappointed because she never told ANYONE she planned to run for president.

Exactly.

255 posted on 07/05/2009 1:03:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: OldDeckHand
I am aware that Reagan finished his term as governor prior to running. Some posters here feel that it is essential that one hold public office WHILE running in order to win the presidency (that's why I included it as a ‘reminder’ and not part of my main point)

Reagan was also the focus of a smear campaign while serving as governor, and there was one unsuccessful attempt to have him removed. However, back then, people had the decency to focus their attacks on the man and not his family. Nor did Reagan have to endure Palin’s legal battles where she is deluged with frivolous lawsuits designed to distract her and drain her personal finances.

256 posted on 07/05/2009 1:05:27 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: kidd
"Some posters here feel that it is essential that one hold public office WHILE running in order to win the presidency (that's why I included it as a ‘reminder’ and not part of my main point)"

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not in that camp. Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan all proved that you don't need to be in office. And, I think if Palin just would have announced she wouldn't be seeking a second, she would have been absolutely fine.

But, I can't help but think that the early departure from public office (still 18 months left on her commitment, and only 30 months in office) becomes a tremendous handicap to anyone not already a fervent Palin supporter.

257 posted on 07/05/2009 1:12:11 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: nathanbedford
one comes to understand that nothing less than the utter moral destruction of Barack Obama will turn the tide. ...I know of no one but Gingrich who has a chance to do it.
You're one of the few I've seen who really gets it. Obama must be taken apart with precision, point by point, with a a scalpel and forceps by a skilled rhetorical surgeon. Only Newt can cut through the politics and BS to do it, and enjoy it while he does.

Like I've said, Newt has a penchant for always being on the verge of thinking about considering perhaps throwing his hat into this ring or that one, but never quite committing.

But as you said Newt is the closest thing to an American Churchill, and so lets hope, like Churchill, he will step forward to turn our nation's darkest hour into our finest.
 
258 posted on 07/05/2009 1:12:25 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch
Newt has always been a pragmatist, and he figured out, unlike other Republicans, that if you don’t offer alternatives to the Democrats’ environmental policies, then they will get their policies passed in full.

The correct alternative is to simply tell the truth - that the myth of global warming is nothing but a hoax designed to enrich a few select entities and individuals at enormous expense to the rest of the nation.

As I said on another thread, you don't lay down with the enemy and then pretend you're still a friend. Newt laid down with the enemy.

259 posted on 07/05/2009 1:12:59 PM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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To: counterpunch
And 50% of Republicans believe in Global Warming™ to some degree.

Sounds like a good reason to NOT be a Republican. Democrat-lite is no way to go through life.

260 posted on 07/05/2009 1:14:55 PM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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