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FR Gun Club - New MSAR STG-556 E4 is out
Via Email | 07/03/09 | RATWORX, Inc

Posted on 07/03/2009 8:43:45 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Hiya FR Gun Club members,

I received the following email today, with the attached pics of the new STG-556 E4.

Looks like a kewl new toy to go shoot!!!!

The email:

From: guns@ratworxusa.com
To: al@ratworxusa.com
Subject: New STG-E4
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:45:34 +0000

Hey, we just thought we would share with everybody some photos of the new MSAR STG-E4. We received our shipment of rifles today. We demo'd the very first production gun to leave the factory to 11 L.E. Departments, and the gun worked flawlessly all day.

For those of you who had pre-oders, right now we have Black 16" rail guns we will be shipping next week. Other colors and configurations will follow later.

Thanks, Al Rat Worx, Inc. 815-734-7346 www.ratworxusa.com

the pics:









TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
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I think I'd like to shoot one ..... just because.
1 posted on 07/03/2009 8:43:45 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright

Wonder what it costs to bring something like this to market.


2 posted on 07/03/2009 8:47:00 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Neil E. Wright
An AUG by any other name....An AUG is an AUG is an AUG.
3 posted on 07/03/2009 8:47:48 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

The first thing I would do is upgrade that wood magazine!


4 posted on 07/03/2009 8:52:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: ExSoldier

Without benchmarking, how can you compare?

I’d like to see a writeup on them both, head-to-head.

Aesthetically, it’s a nice looking rifle tho’ and I certainly wouldn’t turn it down if my my wife put it under the X-Mas tree.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 8:54:27 PM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: Neil E. Wright

5.56, 6.5 Grendel, or 6.8 SPC?

Of course, if it was available in .458....


6 posted on 07/03/2009 8:55:46 PM PDT by MindBender26 (The Hellfire Missile is one of the wonderful ways God shows us he loves American Soldiers & Marines)
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To: Neil E. Wright; 300winmag; hiredhand

Well that’s different....


7 posted on 07/03/2009 8:57:07 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Neil E. Wright

http://www.lipseys.com/itemfinder.aspx?mfg=Microtech+Small+Arms+Research

Ouch.


8 posted on 07/03/2009 9:19:39 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Nice. Great conversation piece.


9 posted on 07/03/2009 9:24:06 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Needs rails. /s

WTF is with the rail mania. Open sights or a scope were good enough for grandpa, daddy, and me. WTF is up with all the rail crap? It's a hunk of metal for throwing smaller hunks of metal downrange. It is NOT a Swiss Army device.

Rant off.

/johnny

10 posted on 07/03/2009 9:27:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

>Ouch.

Yeah.


11 posted on 07/03/2009 9:33:55 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: lilylangtree; Neil E. Wright

Now that is one picture that is worth a thousand words!


12 posted on 07/03/2009 9:35:07 PM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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To: JRandomFreeper

I know, open/iron sights are a must have to me. I don’t like bullpups either.


13 posted on 07/03/2009 9:44:18 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I’ve never really been into bullpups but this one is interesting. Is this the version that’s AR-15 mag compatible?

Quick sidenote...Anyone ever see that old Bushmaster bullpup?...The M17 I think it was called. Now there was one fugly gun! I have nothing against Bushmaster’s quality, they build fine weapons. It just made my eyes bleed.


14 posted on 07/03/2009 9:58:43 PM PDT by kamikaze2000
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To: JudgemAll

Bullpups really have only two viable tactical reasons. Very close quarters (vehicle or house to house combat) and when you want to extend barrel length to improve ballistic performance from a “same size” package.

My favorite bullpup config - M1A in a bullpup (http://www.defensereview.com/srss-bulldog-762-bullpup-m14m1a-battle-rifle-762mm-range-session/)


15 posted on 07/03/2009 10:02:39 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Neil E. Wright
I'm looking for a new “Black Gun” right now. After retiring from the military I spent a coup;e years in gunsmithing school. I've spent a good part of my life with an M-16 in my hands and many more years working on different firearms so I know a little about them.
I would like to shoot this rifle but it would be hard pressed to stand up to some other rifles currently on the market.
The new Ruger 556 sells for about the same price and is a high quality weapon.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FASubType?type=Rifle&subtype=Autoloading

I've had the opportunity to both shoot one and then tear it apart to see how it is built. The Ruger 556 will be my next firearms purchase.

16 posted on 07/03/2009 10:31:55 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

The barrel looks like it’s threaded to take a very long suppressor.


17 posted on 07/03/2009 10:51:24 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

my thoughts as well. Still, I do like the cappuccino attachment.


18 posted on 07/03/2009 11:13:39 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: MDspinboyredux
I’d like to see a writeup on them both, head-to-head.

If they share the same plastic crappy trigger group, I'll pass, but that's just me. If I wanted something like that, I'd go for one of those FN space guns, the FS2000. At least it takes M16 mags and it retains the first seven extracted cases inside until the eject forward and down. Makes things neater. It also has an AUG-Like internal optical sight. Actually, if I had my druthers, I'd take the H&K 416. Maybe in 6.8mm as long as I could have 10K in rounds to go along with the gift.

19 posted on 07/03/2009 11:22:46 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Squantos

Dude! SoapGirl was eyeballing this rifle at our local shop the other week! She LIKED it. :-) My buddy on the other side of the counter said to WATCH OUT for the gas port on the tube just beside the front vertical grip. He said people who aren’t used to vertical grips have a tendency to wrap their hand around that gas port and get blistered first shot!


20 posted on 07/04/2009 9:27:15 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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