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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2009 Vol.8 – July 03
FreeRepublic | 7-03-09 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 07/03/2009 4:00:47 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning to all of you gardeners. I hope every one of you have a safe and Happy 4th of July weekend! Since just about everyone grows tomatoes in their vegetable garden I thought I would share some information I stumbled across concerning when to pick your tomatoes.

Every tomato lover knows fresh, “vine-ripe” flavor is by far the best.

At the same time, many don’t know what “vine ripe” means. So, whether growing or buying tomatoes, they may be limiting their access to the top flavor of the season.

Tomatoes develop their optimum nutrition, color and flavor when they’re in the full red-ripe stage. But getting to that point doesn’t have to occur on the plant.

Tomatoes go through specific steps in developing “vine ripeness”:

* A gas called ethylene regulates the ripening process. Tomatoes start producing this gas internally when they reach full size and become pale green.

* When tomatoes turn about one-half green and one-half pink (called the breaker stage), a layer of cells forms across their stem, sealing them off from the main vine. At this stage, tomatoes can ripen on or off the vine with no loss of quality or flavor.

* Tomatoes don’t ripen at refrigerator temperatures. If harvested in the breaker stage, however, keeping them in a cool place (to a minimum 50 F) will slow down their ripening process. Keeping them warm (to a maximum 85 F) will rapidly bring full ripeness. And, once ripe, they can keep for several weeks in the refrigerator.

This kind of control allows you to spread out the good eating over a longer period. A breaker-stage harvest also allows you to protect tomatoes from the heat extremes of summer. Tomatoes can’t form their red pigments when temperatures are above 95 degrees. They’ll still ripen, but they’ll end up a yellowish-orange.

Leaving tomatoes to ripen on the vine also increases the odds for cracking and other types of damage. Plus, it puts an increasing weight load on the viney plant.


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To: gardengirl
LIAM - Love In A Mist


121 posted on 07/07/2009 7:03:17 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; gardengirl; girlangler; Diana in Wisconsin

LIAMS is definitely easier to type ;^)

They are very pretty!!!


122 posted on 07/07/2009 7:11:05 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Red_Devil 232; Gabz

That’s it!

Clapping, clapping, clapping here! Thanks Red!

Definitely easier on the hands than spelling it out! LOL


123 posted on 07/07/2009 7:14:05 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: gardengirl

Those are pretty! I haven’t grown those in years. Thanks for the reminder. :)

My latest ‘project’ is designing a cutting garden for myself. I haven’t had one of those in years, either. It’s time! :)


124 posted on 07/07/2009 7:17:09 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I always try to have a row of cut flowers in the garden. This year, I got them out late, it got hot and dry. I now have Lilliputian cutting flowers. Very cute, but it takes alot to fill a vase.

My cosmos are about 6 inches tall, should be three feet. Same with zinnias. The blooms aren’t much bigger than the LIAMS. LOL


125 posted on 07/07/2009 7:20:06 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: JerseyJohn61

I bought them from Burpee.com when I couldn’t find any yellow pear seeds in my area. This is my first attempt at gardening. I planted them in jiffy 7s. I had a whole tray of 12 YPs. This is one of the surviving 4.

I’ve killed a lot of stuff this year. ;-)

I’ve been taking pics of everything since I started.

This particular plant looked ‘normal’ until about 2 weeks after I transplanted it into the garden.


126 posted on 07/07/2009 7:48:03 AM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: gardengirl; Diana in Wisconsin

The only “flowers” for cutting or otherwise that I have are really nothing more than weeds as I have never planted any.

There is so much flora along the creek that we have absolutely NO clue what half of it is. We did discover 2 Bay Laurels and even MORE grapes than we initially thought, as well as tons more wild blackberries!!!!

Unfortunately, the Japanese beetles have also discovered all the flora and are doing a serious number on the grape leaves.


127 posted on 07/07/2009 7:48:41 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz; JerseyJohn61; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; MtnClimber
I just could not resist posting this picture. This is my collection of harvested tomatoes and (gulp) a few Habanero peppers thrown in.

These were harvested from Sunday morning to this morning (Tuesday) for the most part the older tomatoes are to the back of each row. The ripe ones in the back get canned today!

From left to right Roma, Marion, Early Girl, (gulp)Habanero peppers, and wonderful pink Arkensas Travelers.

In the center is a very ripe Marion Tomato sitting on an 8 ounce container of sour cream (to show size) - man these guys are prolific and very tasty. Nice slicers!


128 posted on 07/07/2009 8:03:08 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Holey Guacamoley, Red!!!!!!!!!!


129 posted on 07/07/2009 8:06:45 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wow!


130 posted on 07/07/2009 8:08:02 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gabz
Do you know what I would to be able to grow Avocados?!!!
131 posted on 07/07/2009 8:14:14 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

You and me both!!!!!


132 posted on 07/07/2009 8:34:02 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: trisham
I am going to be harvesting tomatoes for quite awhile - at least until it just gets to hot for them to set. But come late September they will perk right back up and I may have fresh tomatoes into early Nov.
133 posted on 07/07/2009 8:37:24 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Gabz
I was born in California and in my early years we had Avocado and fig trees either in our yard or the neighbors yard. Love both.
134 posted on 07/07/2009 8:42:23 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s right rub it in...........LOL!!!

I could grow figs here, but I’m too far north for avacadoes.

I mixed up a batch of Jerry Baker’s anti-Japanese beetle potion which I am going to go spray on the grape leaves those nasty creatures are destroying.


135 posted on 07/07/2009 8:51:18 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz; JerseyJohn61; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; MtnClimber
View of the garden - rows left to right - Marion, Early Girl and Arkansas Traveler

A picture of my Tobasco Peppers!


136 posted on 07/07/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Purty plants!!!!!!!!!!


137 posted on 07/07/2009 8:59:16 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz
I wish I knew what the heck I am going to do with all those Tobasco peppers (3 plants) and my oh my I have got Habaneros just going gang busters!


138 posted on 07/07/2009 9:04:56 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wow, those are big tomatoe plants! The cold weather has really slowed mine down. It is still getting down into the low 40’s some nights here. My biggest tomatoe plant is only about 10 inches high. They are beginning to flower and develop small green tomatoes. I can see I need to figure out a greenhouse covering for spring.


139 posted on 07/07/2009 10:13:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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Larry, you have a very unique ecosystem. Altitude, poor rocky soil and I don't know what else. I am just amazed at your attitude!
140 posted on 07/07/2009 10:22:42 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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