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Iwas just wondering...
27 June 2009 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 06/27/2009 7:14:30 PM PDT by US Navy Vet

How did some cities(Chicago, New York, Phili, St Louis, LA, SF) and some states (IL, NY, PA, CA) get so screwed up? I mean where did they start to go wrong? Just wondering.


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To: bboop

of course they won’t..i am not expecting them to. But it would be nice for someone or a few to start making a peep. The only one that I know of is Ron Paul.


21 posted on 06/27/2009 7:32:07 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: US Navy Vet

I was just wondering what the news was on the troops coming home on Tuesday from Iraq. I turned on Fox around 6:30 tonight and that was the breaking news but I’ve seen no mention here or on Drudge.


22 posted on 06/27/2009 7:33:48 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Too many Rats in the cage syndrome.


23 posted on 06/27/2009 7:34:36 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: US Navy Vet

Here in Pa unions, unions, unions.


24 posted on 06/27/2009 7:34:42 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: US Navy Vet
1 sentence explains it all: From each according to his ability; to each according to his need.

A communist is someone who has read Marx. An anticommunist is someone who understands Marx.
- Ronald Reagan, destroyer of the Soviet Union
25 posted on 06/27/2009 7:36:19 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy - with solutions based on Lies.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Liberal leftists like what’s in power in DC screwing up the country are also running cities like you mentioned. Ask yourself—who’s in power.


26 posted on 06/27/2009 7:38:49 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: bboop

Liberal power grabs...like these, from the POtuS. They may sound familiar;

He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and, when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them, and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing, with manly firmness, his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining, in the mean time, exposed to all the dangers of invasions from without and convulsions within.

He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has affected to render the military independent of, and superior to, the civil power.


27 posted on 06/27/2009 7:40:20 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: US Navy Vet
In NY, the labor unions are very powerful. They exact benefits (e.g., health care, pensions, early retirement) that are unsustainable. Also, NY spends more on Medicaid than any other state. In addition, education expenses are very high - not only due to teachers' union contracts - recently a judge ruled that the State must spend billions more on schools in inner cities.

A lot of these expenses are due to politicians' promises to labor unions, other interest groups in order to secure re-election.

Also there is a lot of pork-barrel spending and back-scratching - examples: millions of dollars was recently spent on changing all the signs on the Triborough Bridge to rename it to the Robert F. Kennedy Bridge, despite a NY State budget shortfall of 14 billion dollars at that time; the Lieutenant Governor's office is fully staffed, even though there is no Lieutenant Governor; Governor Paterson has an enormous staff, to which he recently gave very large raises; - that sort of thing.

28 posted on 06/27/2009 7:41:49 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: sport

My Oath is Sworn. I am proficient. My aim is true.


29 posted on 06/27/2009 7:42:32 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

SF has a big budget hole for the next fiscal year.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/11/BA9N184NJP.DTL


30 posted on 06/27/2009 7:42:46 PM PDT by m4629 (politically incorrect, and proud of it)
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To: US Navy Vet

I sent your Q to two friends——a conservative and a left-wing nut. I hope they both answer because the comparison should be interesting!


31 posted on 06/27/2009 7:44:26 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I think you forgot Detroit and Michigan.
Proud cess pool of Democratic mayor/s and 8 years of a useless democratic governor.


32 posted on 06/27/2009 7:48:17 PM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Most are one party regions. Anytime one party is assured of control there is no incentive to make things better. Rather the most loyal constituants get taken for granted and the only goal of the politician is to enrich themselves. Case in point, the Democrats and the black vote OR the Republicans and the Conservative vote. In both cases the major party takes these constituants for granted because, hey where are they going to go?

Don't ask me what the answer to this situation is.

33 posted on 06/27/2009 7:52:28 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: cripplecreek

>> States like Michigan are dragged along for the ride by cities like Detroit.

In Michigan’s case, unions run amok didn’t help the conservative cause, either.


34 posted on 06/27/2009 7:53:02 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Liberals very quietly moved into the news media and education, after that they dumbed down American kids and threw the weight of the press behind communist candidates going under the guise of democrats. After a time, the dumb Americans, voter fraud(in the case of CA especially, with illegals voting, can't speak for other states on the fraud)and sheer not paying attention by other voters gave eht dems an edge. In CA they gerrymandered the districts so that it is hard to get a republican in the state legislature.

That's it in a nutshell. It basically amounts to people thinking the constitution would protect us and not paying attention.

35 posted on 06/27/2009 7:54:23 PM PDT by calex59
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To: US Navy Vet

Here’s background on Chicago...with current information:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2151323/posts


36 posted on 06/27/2009 8:00:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Probably the states you mentioned thought they could “afford” being liberal in the late forties and early fifties. The money was just rolling into New York, California, and Michigan after the war. It was not rolling into Alabama or Mississippi. The money flow lasted about fifteen years and by then they’re stuck. Also, the more “conservative” people started leaving for other places leaving the more “liberal” people behind. Also, remember that in the late forties and early fifties the “people” believed in big government and just about big anything. Mostly, it was being in the right place at the right time to catch the wave of the time. When the wave receded they have what they have now.


37 posted on 06/27/2009 8:07:59 PM PDT by AceMineral (Offically unapproved of since 1973)
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To: US Navy Vet

chicago got screwed up by the mob and prohibition.

The west coast got screwed up by illegal immigration and hollywood. These two things combined created a situation where there was a huge huge gap between the haves and the have nots. Marxist ideas thrive in such an environment. especially when the “haves” are immoral trash like what populates hollywood.

The rest of the country doesn’t have a good excuse, as far as I can tell.


38 posted on 06/27/2009 8:08:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: US Navy Vet
Those embracing Marxist philosophy coming into power, plain and simple. They have for years fought for, lied, and deceived to push forth their Communist agenda packaged in a such a way as to make most voters not realize who or what they were putting into power.

Their agenda, which they KNOW is not beneficial for a stronger nation, is designed to usher in their socialist utopia. They are fiercely devoted to their Marxist faith and being people of amoral character, will do anything....anything, to bring their faith into our reality.

Unfortunately, most voters couldn't care less about this. As William Buckley stated in the 1950’s....”The Communist Party in America numbers about 5,000 people. Unfortunately they outnumber the anti-communists.”

39 posted on 06/27/2009 8:08:52 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: US Navy Vet

NY is run by liberals.


40 posted on 06/27/2009 8:09:30 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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