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No jail time for cop who pummeled bartender (including video)
Breaking News ^ | 6-23-09

Posted on 06/23/2009 3:01:24 PM PDT by STARWISE

Edited on 06/23/2009 4:23:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Toddsterpatriot

“It’s enough to make you want to get drunk and start hitting a bartender.....”

Nah, it’s enough to make me want to puke...every time some innocent person gets jacked up by the cops...but it’s like plane crashes...you only hear about the catastrophes, not the million successes...sorry you don’t get that...maybe you will some day...


41 posted on 06/23/2009 3:35:43 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: Filo

Who lied for him ?

The police chief wants him fired .... he better be.


42 posted on 06/23/2009 3:35:47 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: sergeantdave

Thanks ...


43 posted on 06/23/2009 3:37:24 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...



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44 posted on 06/23/2009 3:40:20 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: jessduntno
OK. I can tell when I’m wasting my time. 99% giving the other 1% a bad name? You got your numbers right, they’re just backwards.

Bootlickers are always wasting their time.

Even if your numbers were right, which they aren't, why would you want to deal with a force that is 1% bad?

Pilots can keep planes in the air 99.9999+% of the time. Would you fly if that number were 99%?

Why would you stop for a cop pulling you over if there were a 1% chance he'd shoot you and pretend you were armed with his buddies swearing to his lie?
45 posted on 06/23/2009 3:41:14 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: All

“Under cross-examination, Abbate testified that he knew Obrycka had told him earlier not to go behind the bar but that he didn’t care what she said even though he knew he could simply have walked to his friend without going behind the bar.

Abbate, who is listed at 6 foot 1 inches tall and admitted he may have weighed more than 250 pounds at the time of the incident, said he was drunk at the time and felt threatened by Obrycka, who is 5 foot 3 inches tall and weighs 125 pounds.”

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/06/abbate-acquitted-on-2-lesser-charges.html

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Some kind of “man.”


46 posted on 06/23/2009 3:41:43 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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so can she sue in civil court? and make his life a financial hell?


47 posted on 06/23/2009 3:41:55 PM PDT by isom35
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To: STARWISE
Who lied for him ?

You should familiarize yourself with the story and the general MO of the police in these situations.

The police chief wants him fired .... he better be.

Yeah, now, after he was convicted. . .
48 posted on 06/23/2009 3:42:18 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Filo

“the general MO of police in these situations”.............?

Yeah .. ok. I’ve got your drift.


49 posted on 06/23/2009 3:45:08 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: jessduntno

I’ll get it when assholes like this, who do things like this, get jail time.


50 posted on 06/23/2009 3:53:13 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Filo

Does somebody have PDS?


51 posted on 06/23/2009 3:54:20 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Filo

“Even if your numbers were right, which they aren’t, why would you want to deal with a force that is 1% bad?”

A remarkable number, given what humans are...I’ve been alive long enough to know that is a remarkably good number...and there are some really great cops out there that get lumps for this crap...but 1%? I can live with it...I’d be happy if it were 5%...

I’m not defending this one guy and I agree, if what they say is true, let’s get him out...

But you aren’t going to change your mind and trust me, I am not changing mine, so, like I said, I am not wasting more time...sorry you don’t see how weak the argument is...1% bad? Given the number of thugs in the world, I’ll take it...


52 posted on 06/23/2009 3:56:22 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: jessduntno
When special authority is given to any select group, over time that authority will tend to be more and more abused.
Power corrupts.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
53 posted on 06/23/2009 3:58:08 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei (quem deus vult perdere prius dementat)
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To: STARWISE

Doesn’t the Constitution forbid titles of nobility?


54 posted on 06/23/2009 3:59:28 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: STARWISE
"Who lied for him ?"

The other cops in the district and elsewhere, including the higher ups. They were successful in suppressing any filing of charges, or prosecution by the State's Attorney's office for just over one month. An ass't DA pushed hard, stuck with the bartender's case and got the prosecution. Then Flemming let him skate.

55 posted on 06/23/2009 4:00:29 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: STARWISE

It all when down hill when they changed from peace officers to law enforcement officers.


56 posted on 06/23/2009 4:01:27 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“I’ll get it when assholes like this, who do things like this, get jail time.”

vote for Obama, then, he’s got the dream world...the rest of us have to live on planet earth...and listen, I don’t know why you aren’t hearing this, but I’m not defending this guy, if he’s guilty, I want him gone, too...I just don’t get on this thread, what’s with all the hatred of cops? Man, I NEVER said this was a good guy, my point was that I don’t think all cops suck...let it go...I got my opinion, you got yours.


57 posted on 06/23/2009 4:02:11 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: STARWISE

Judge John Fleming - Not Qualified in 1996:

http://www.chicagocouncil.org/judicial_pdfs/F/John%20J.%20Fleming.pdf


58 posted on 06/23/2009 4:06:02 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Hiddigeigei

“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”

Inter arma enim silent leges.


59 posted on 06/23/2009 4:06:04 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: jessduntno
if he’s guilty, I want him gone, too

He was found guilty. Still not gone.

I just don’t get on this thread, what’s with all the hatred of cops?

I don't hate all cops. Just the scumbags.....and the scumbags who cover for them.

If they can't deal with the "crap they have to deal with every day" without getting drunk and beating up bartenders, they shouldn't be cops. Glad you agree.

60 posted on 06/23/2009 4:07:42 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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