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Are you ready to ditch XP for Windows 7?
zdnet ^ | June 1st, 2009 | Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Posted on 06/01/2009 10:14:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono

According to NetApplications, Windows XP is still the OS of choice for users out there in ComputerLand, with some two-thirds of users still making use of the aging OS. By comparison, Vista is struggling to capture a quarter of the market share. Vista’s “WOW!” failed to capture the attention of users, as many chose to stick with their older OS.

If you are an XP user, has what you’ve seen of Windows 7 made you willing to ditch XP?

The way I see it, Microsoft needs to be putting effort into marketing Windows 7 to those currently using XP. After all, those already using Vista have shown a willingness to switch OSes already, and moving from Vista to 7 isn’t that much of a leap. It’s those entrenched XP users that present a problem for Microsoft. These people, for whatever reason, turned their backs on Vista, and it’s these people that Microsoft needs to win back.

But it’s not going to be easy.

While Microsoft tried to convince people that Vista wasn’t really as bad as they thought it was by resorting to a web ad campaign that was thinly disguised as an “experiment”, those still using XP weren’t buying it. In fact it wasn’t until Microsoft’s “Laptop Hunter” ad campaign that the Redmond giant started seeing its ad dollars really having an effect. Problem for Microsoft is that these ads spend their time selling Windows-based PCs rather than Windows itself. It seems that Microsoft knows that selling Windows is an uphill struggle.

Another problem for Microsoft is that there’s no easy upgrade path for XP users wanting to move to Windows 7. While I usually hate doing in-place upgrades on an OS (that’s where you apply the OS over the top of the existing one and keep all your old settings and programs) because it leads to more problems than it solves, I know that there are a lot of people out there who like this method because it saves them a lot of time and effort. You can’t do this going from XP to 7. You can use Windows Easy Transfer to move your stuff (data, not apps), which is probably the safest method, but it’s a multi-step hassle that many won’t bother with.

As I see it there’s another obstacle in the way of XP users adopting 7, and that is the fact that if you peel away the Windows 7 veneer, what you end up with resembles Vista. A lot. Sure, it’s Vista SP2, and not the poor quality RTM code that Microsoft shoveled into user’s faces, but it’s still Vista. There may be fewer comparability roadblocks than there was for those who tried moving from XP to Vista, but users going from XP to Windows 7 are still going to stumble across roadblocks. XP Mode will help, but ultimately it’s a kludge. A kludge that’s only available to people who buy the most expensive versions of Windows 7.

It’ll be interesting to see how Microsoft tries to win over the entrenched XP user. Microsoft may decide to throw ad dollars at the problem. Alternatively, Microsoft might stick with the current “Laptop Hunter” style ads and rely on user’s PC growing obsolete over time.


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KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows7
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To: McGruff
If you’ve got a computer with XP keep it. If you buy a new one get it with Windows 7 when it comes out.

That's me, right there. My XP laptop is great but a bit old. Next year maybe a new computer, a new OS. Most probably win7 but we'll see.

81 posted on 06/01/2009 12:27:56 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: null and void
Never buy a MS OS until the 3rd SP.

Or better yet, just buy a Mac...

82 posted on 06/01/2009 12:29:44 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
, it establishes an Internet connection with Microsoft, then offers you hundreds of pre-existing configurations to select from,

Dial-up customers will love it. /s

83 posted on 06/01/2009 12:32:11 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: jrg
Nah....ditched XP for a Mac last year.

Won't buy a Mac because they won't let me choose the hardware. I would certainly consider the Mac OS if they would back off on their exclusionary licensing policy.

84 posted on 06/01/2009 12:34:08 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: DeFault User
Trouble with XP SP3 upgrade? Yes, I found out there can be, especially on HP/Compaq machines with AMD chips.
Thanks. Since I'm dealing with a Pentium D, and not an HP, that is presumably not an issue.

85 posted on 06/01/2009 12:44:41 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: jessduntno
And I have heard that there can be trouble with SP 3, and that I should only upgrade to SP 2. Do you have any comment?
Do them in sequence...I have had ZERO problems with SP3 - don’t know of any...would like to hear about them though? The problems could come from some glitch in jumping over 2 to 3...
. . . so my takeaway is that for sure I should upgrade to SP 2, and then think. What do I expose myself to, or what functionality do I lose, by stopping at SP 2?

86 posted on 06/01/2009 12:48:15 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

. . . so my takeaway is that for sure I should upgrade to SP 2, and then think. What do I expose myself to, or what functionality do I lose, by stopping at SP 2?”

Perhaps. But I doubt the veracity of problems with 3, BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE...I am not touting it...

as I said: I have had ZERO problems with SP3 - don’t know of any...would like to hear about them though?

they made 3 to address issues in 2...where did you get the “3 is a problem” idea? Is it documented somewhere?


87 posted on 06/01/2009 12:53:36 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: Jmouse007
I am planing on doing just this, we need a new notebook computer and I am waiting for Windows 7 to arrive because I refuse to buy or support ANY VISTA dreck.

I have a 64 bit AMD dual core, and I bought this machine with Vista, for gaming. Other stuff too, but it had to be game-able. It runs great, does everything I ask of it, including Microsoft Flight Simulator X at high settings, with smooth operation. Vista doesn't suck when you have enough hardware to run it.

I've since installed Windows 7 64bit and it's been stable, fun and fine. I laughed when I tested a dual LCD setup. I plugged in the second screen and rebooted. I went into the kitchen to reboot my coffee cup and when I returned, the monitors were completely self-set up, correctly, and quick, with NO input from me.

I put the 32 bit version of W7 on my Dell laptop, and as soon as I plugged in the LAN cable, it went online to get the drivers for my wireless card. I'd plugged it in to go online to get, yep, drivers for my wireless card.

It's easy to drag things onto the taskbar for 'quickstart' function, the file system in the start button is quite handy. I'm loving it. But the question, will I buy it when the demos run out next year? I dunno. I can always reinstall my factory Vista image for free and still have a windows gaming machine. Linux is free too. I'll have to see when the time comes.

88 posted on 06/01/2009 1:12:39 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: ShadowAce

Except that Microsoft version handles the compatibility issues, has far fewer conflicts, and does the setup with just what you want and need, without extraneous components. This does take advantage of a lot of what Linux does well, but mostly by eliminating software overhead, streamlining.

And as part of the maintenance program, new software is integrated in as needed. Plus, an individual has a downloadable/installable system backup, which separates their operational software from their data.

Microsoft, in effect, has a mirror of your setup for everything but data, which it can reinstall for your computer, a group of computers, or all the computers of a business. To a great extent this would strongly reduce many corporations IT departments to intranet support.


89 posted on 06/01/2009 1:22:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It’s a great idea up front, but support and consumer confusion and perception would be a nightmare on the back. People were freaking out when Microsoft castrated XP to make XP Home. They’d hear some tip and find out it didn’t work on their machines. They didn’t like that. Support has to ask you which version you’re running, and most people don’t even know that. It’s just what came with their computer.

Disk space is cheap and it doesn’t cost them a penny more to manufacture Ultimate vs. Home Basic. Just ship the whole thing like Apple does. This splitting up is for company profit, not for customer satisfaction.


90 posted on 06/01/2009 1:35:08 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: 09Patriot

Thanks. What about the major ANTISPYWARE ETC. like

WEBROOT;

SYSTEM MECH;

ETC?


91 posted on 06/01/2009 1:46:26 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mysterio

Thanks for the link.

Interesting.

If you hear any more, please let me know.


92 posted on 06/01/2009 1:50:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono
Are you ready to ditch XP for Windows 7?

In a word, NO!

Not unless they have ditched the DRM software and hardware overhead BS. I want the benefit of hardware I pay for, not to have it hijacked by the operating system.

I also don't need permission to upgrade legal hardware and software as I see fit.

If I can be convinced that these are no longer problems, I might want to try it.

93 posted on 06/01/2009 2:22:53 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: MediaMole
What DRM stuff? I hope you aren’t still talking about the FUD report from a couple years ago about Vista DRM.
The DRM was entirely used for Blu ray playback and didn’t affect any other content.

BS.
No, incredibly crude BS!

The hardware overhead to constantly check on DRM violations has been well documented.
As has been the stupid permissions from Microshaft necessary to upgrade hardware.

Nice try though.

94 posted on 06/01/2009 2:28:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: jrg

When I ditch XP I’m ditching Microsoft at the same time .


95 posted on 06/01/2009 2:38:38 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: jrg

How bad is the learning curve ? I use a computer mostly for internet ; email ; burning CDs ; watching videos ...basic stuff .


96 posted on 06/01/2009 2:40:11 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Quix

haha, are you serious...system mech? web root? I dont think system mech does anything its for clueless users...webroot is alright but windows defender usta be Giant spyware its a very good product.I use free avg for antivirus, I havent tried my corp Symantec on it yet.


97 posted on 06/01/2009 2:46:26 PM PDT by 09Patriot (I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservatism got us NOWHERE)
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To: null and void; JoeProBono
> Never buy a MS OS until the 3rd SP.

Win7 IS Vista SP3, period. It's trimmed down a little and runs a little better. I like it better than I liked Vista (not saying much). Runs applications good.

But if you like mucking around in the system as I do, XP is still the way to go, if you do Windows at all, that is.

I'll end up using Win7 eventually, of course...

98 posted on 06/01/2009 2:49:36 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Publius6961
BS. No, incredibly crude BS! The hardware overhead to constantly check on DRM violations has been well documented. As has been the stupid permissions from Microshaft necessary to upgrade hardware. Nice try though. maybe it is bs to you I have not ran into the problem. I wouldnt install this on an 8 yearold pc comeon guys if you got an old computer there really is no need to upgrade unless you are pretty savvy you could make it work. the only guy on here that probably does need to is the guy that has the 1 year old 64bit system runing xp, I think the 64bit version had some issues the vista64 was pretty good and 7 64 is even better.
99 posted on 06/01/2009 2:49:50 PM PDT by 09Patriot (I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservatism got us NOWHERE)
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To: 09Patriot

I haven’t reinstalled SYS MECH on my new computer though I still have a current subscription. I needed it on my old machine which was built to my specs in Taipei. Wheee.

Anyway—I think I only use SPYSWEEPER and Windows Live One Care currently. Probably inadequate . . . sigh.

AVG used to give my old system fits but I forget why, if I ever knew.


100 posted on 06/01/2009 2:52:37 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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