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OHP Trooper Scuffle Caught On Videotape (Police Vs Paramedics)
NewsOn6.com ^ | 05/27/2009 | NewsOn6.com

Posted on 05/28/2009 6:57:31 AM PDT by Dallas59





BOLEY, OK -- Oklahoma Highway Patrol troopers get into a fight with a paramedic and it is all caught on videotape.

The incident happened near Boley in Okfuskee County.

In the video, you see OHP troopers pushing the paramedic and grabbing his neck.

The fight happened during an emergency call when a patient waiting to be taken to the local hospital was in the back of the ambulance.

Officials say OHP troopers became upset after the paramedic failed to yield while the troopers were rushing to a call of their own.

The troopers claim the paramedic assaulted one of them before the camera started rolling.

The video was shot by the patient's son. He says he continually asked the troopers to stop, so his mom could be taken to the hospital.

"We're like telling this dude. 'Man, my mom is in the back.' My step-dad was like 'man my wife is in the back, can we do this at the hospital,'" said Kenyada Davis.

The patient was finally taken to the hospital where she was treated and released.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol won't comment on the video while it's being reviewed by Okfuskee County prosecutors.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: ambulance; barney; donutwatch; doyouknowwhoaiam; leo; police; policestate; respectmyauthority; thugwithabadge
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To: Dallas59

Let me get this straight, the trooper was in such a hurry to get to his call that he had to STOP the ambulance and harass the paramedics for not yielding?

Does anyone besides me see the failure in logic in this?


21 posted on 05/28/2009 7:40:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: vetvetdoug

Um, the police made a traffic stop on an ambulance. An ambulance on it’s own emergency run. An ambulance with a patient. You don’t even know the EMT yet you are making all kinds of really awful comments about his abilities and mind set.


22 posted on 05/28/2009 7:40:31 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: magslinger

It’s not even about whether or not cops are nice people or mean people. It’s about your willingness to fund them. It’s about your desire to set a class of people in authority over you with the power to interfere with your day to day activities.


23 posted on 05/28/2009 7:42:10 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: OneWingedShark

Supposedly the men were on the way to a must go fast, how dare you incident.

But, that all got dropped when their fragile, rigid egos got, as the punk illiterate kids say, “got dissed”.

“We be tak’n ‘bout RESPECT !”

Pathetic.

It takes a certain, clueless individual to be the obedient step and fetch for every junk, trash, lousy law, ordinance, rule, code, that is spewed out of the people’s legislature.

There is a lot of self selection going on. Who would be attracted to such a job, employed with such people?

Even, uncounsiously, police state and know they are not with the people, whom they refer to as ‘civilians’. As if these union, clock watching, grievance filing town, state, county employees are in the military. Which they are not. At all. But, like in the TV commercial, they play one on the streets.

Frankly, I think most police are scared to death to lose their job. They know they didn’t, and after a while, don’t have the temperament to deal with people on a equal, or if in really any successful business, servient way. They can’t do the dull, hard work of fisherman, roofers, construction, and are not educated enough for the professions, and don’t have the open economy people skills of good businessmen.

So they are trapped, putting the power to the people like old Normans did to the Saxons. Maybe that is why they refer to their fellow citizens as civilians, because they are being honest and are the muscle to an occupying army of leftist, nanny state, big government, corporate elite.

It’s an odd tribal group, police.


24 posted on 05/28/2009 7:42:17 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Dallas59
Lets go to the Law.

Which has the "right of way"
between an ambulance with lights on and OKHP with lights on ?

Clearly someone broke the law.

I'll bet the "life saving" ambulance has the "right of way"

Perhaps I'm wrong.


25 posted on 05/28/2009 7:42:37 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: vetvetdoug

“This ratchet mouthed diversity product more than likely ragged it on knowing he was being videotaped and with the prevailing mindset of the Rodney King supporters acted the same.”

Uh so you are talking about the cop or the paramedic. Unless the cop was rushing to save someones life the AMBULANCE with a patient in the back should have priority.

The cop was probably rushing to buy more donuts. thats why he lost it, his blood sugar was low.

“Again, we get to see the end of the incident when the LE loses it.’

yes, a far too frequent occurance. And if you can’t see the difference between Rodney King and an ambulance driver then your racism has replaced your brain with a rock.


26 posted on 05/28/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
not if there were a number of other cops who were already on their way to the same call.

but i didnt see the video or read the full story.

27 posted on 05/28/2009 7:45:40 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Leisler

The only thing your missing, is that your neighbors demand an authoritarian, well funded, aggressive Police presence. The do it out of fear.

Because most people are cowards.


28 posted on 05/28/2009 7:50:20 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Dallas59
Lets all calm down till we find out the facts. The filmer was connected to the person in the ambulance.

Remember the guy in California that was kicked in the head while laying on the ground about a week or so ago? Turns out he DID have a gun and the cop saw it. If you watch the film closely you can see his hand go underneath his body while the officer was trying to handcuff him. The copter cam couldn't see what the officer saw. This was on the cop channel last night. How many other outlets carried it? You are left with the image of a cop kicking a guy while on the ground and the investigation is just forgotten about.

We have no idea what happened here except what the filmer wanted you to see.

29 posted on 05/28/2009 7:53:27 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Not to mention low, high speed tire, tuned suspension cop car was inconvenienced by a top heavy, passenger carrying truck with passangers inside.

There are old, clear, enforceable rules of inland ship navigation, but one of the exceptions is that the more maneuverable water craft, even if in the right, has a responsibility to give way to a larger craft if it is in the interest of both vessels.

Which calls for some flexibility and judgement.

Obviously lacking in this troopers case.

Basically, if he can’t see, maneuver around an Ambulance, he shouldn’t be driving. If he can not understand that this is one of those every one doing their best incidents, and put aside his rigidity, he doesn’t have the calm, reasoned temperament to be issued lethal force and interact with his fellows.


30 posted on 05/28/2009 7:56:08 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: XeniaSt

The “Law” is not a sacred document. It is the product of our republican process. We elect some smuck with no other prospects to become a hallowed “law maker” and he spends the rest of his time in the seat of power trying to stay there. That’s the Law.

A little common sense on the part of the Cops could have avoided it. But common sense is not “The Law”.


31 posted on 05/28/2009 7:56:11 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: DariusBane
It’s not even about whether or not cops are nice people or mean people. It’s about your willingness to fund them. It’s about your desire to set a class of people in authority over you with the power to interfere with your day to day activities.

Thanks and I agree completely!

32 posted on 05/28/2009 7:58:04 AM PDT by houeto (Defang the FEDGOV. Repeal the 17th!)
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To: Leisler

Since people are people, fallible and highly prone to failure, why in the name of all that is holy do we empower government employees with guns to roam the streets and correct our behavior?


33 posted on 05/28/2009 7:58:33 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: DariusBane

That is what is sold and told to them each and every day, fear.

When the police can not add to their budget, the Chief comes out and scares the old folks and women with “Well, this is going to result in more crime”

Which I always wonder since the Chief is so expert in money/crime correlation, I’d like him to bet his pension on some pay for performance deals.

None would ever go for it.


34 posted on 05/28/2009 7:59:02 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: thefactor
not if there were a number of other cops who were already on their way to the same call.

Then he really didn't need the Ambulance to yield to him, did he?

35 posted on 05/28/2009 8:03:07 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: DariusBane
A little common sense on the part of the Cops could have avoided it. But common sense is not “The Law”.

My daddy told me a long time ago that
"common sense" is not uniformly distributed.

I'm sure that Oklahoma has a law defining
"right of way" for emergency vehicles.

Somewhere in this is a "Thug" who thought he was the "Law"


36 posted on 05/28/2009 8:03:56 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Leisler

Yep, when talking to Cops and ex Cops on this forum the first thing they do is justify there profession through fear. Fear of bad people unfettered doing bad things to you, fear of carnage on the roads without the intervention of armed government employees. F E A R

Free people accept a reasonable amount of risk and take the time and precautions to be aware of their surroundings, alert, and ready to take defensive steps. I don’t want and don’t need 2.77 armed government employees per thousand. Maybe 1.0 or .89 would be fine.


37 posted on 05/28/2009 8:06:28 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: XeniaSt

“Somewhere in this is a “Thug” who thought he was the “Law””

Well he pretty much is... Because your cowardly neighbors want it to be that way.


38 posted on 05/28/2009 8:08:45 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: chuckles
Turns out he DID have a gun and the cop saw it.

Source? If true, that changes everything.

39 posted on 05/28/2009 8:09:38 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: DariusBane

They don’t correct behaviour.

That’s the sizzle, the sell, the theory, but in truth people just go along doing what they are doing.

Take speeding enforcement. Most everyone I see, all my life, everywhere is above the posted speed limit.

Let us say a person is a bad speeder, and gets caught five times in a year, which would be a lot. What percentage of that persons mileage, times in a car, trips does that represent? 2%? ( In the car three time a day, times 365 is near 1,100 speeding events, and he is caught five times. So it is more towards 1/2 of one percent)

And the other say, 500 speeders that never get a ticket that year? ( 500 times 3 times a day, times 365= around half a million)

So basically, and it may well be worse, one ticket for over half a million speeding violations.

Who but a dolt, depended upon a job would think this is effective?


40 posted on 05/28/2009 8:10:24 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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