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Teaching Your Dog Behavior Techniques Is 'Worthless'
abcnews ^ | May 22, 2009 | EMILY WITHER

Posted on 05/22/2009 3:56:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Study Finds Mimicking Trainers Could Make Dog Behavior Worse: Trying to make your dog less aggressive by showing them you are the boss is a waste of time, researchers in a new British study say, especially when using popular new training techniques that urge owners to use physical force to make their dogs more compliant.

According to the study, physical control methods usually shown on TV or touted by celebrity pet trainers like "The Dog Whisperer," Cesar Millan are "ridiculous" and could do more harm than good by making aggressive behavior in dogs worse. Researchers from the University of Bristol's department of clinical veterinary sciences studied dogs for six months They compared their observations to existing studies of wild dogs, like wolves, and concluded that generations of dog lovers have misunderstood "aggressive canines."

The study asserts that, contrary to popular belief, dogs are not trying to assert their dominance over their canine or human "pack" and aren't motivated by maintaining their place in the pecking order.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doggieping
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To: sheikdetailfeather

We had a series of large dogs ... I have trained many a dog, and kindness and discipline are sure winners. You do not need to abuse, if a dog fears the trainer, you have gone to far. You want the dog to obey, not submit.


21 posted on 05/22/2009 4:07:20 PM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, you surrender your rights.)
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To: JoeProBono
I'm usually not one to place anecdotal evidence over "scientific" evidence, but I'm calling BS on this report.

I've had German Shepard Dogs my entire life. I've never used a reward only training system and have always used a correction based system, similar to what Cesar Milan uses. All of the great German dog trainers that teach GSDs and other breeds under the Schutzhund system use something more akin to Milan's. Why? Because it works.

These new-agey reward only training systems are ridiculous. Upon command, my dog will sit, stay or stand until I tell him to do something else. You could shoot a gun or a firecracker off, right next to him and he wouldn't budge - believe me, I've done it. He can track and will protect his "pack" upon command and I've never given him a treat of any kind except a pleasing "good boy" and a pat on the head - and he's plenty happy just with that.

22 posted on 05/22/2009 4:08:30 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Obama Motors - you're going to pay for my cars whether you bought one or not.)
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To: Star Traveler

Echo chambers suck IMO.


23 posted on 05/22/2009 4:09:07 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

Eh? I can’t hear you for the tinnitus... LOL...


24 posted on 05/22/2009 4:12:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: JoeProBono

Is that ed asner ?


25 posted on 05/22/2009 4:13:40 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: JoeProBono
It might not work for everyone, but it worked for my train-wreck of a dog.


26 posted on 05/22/2009 4:14:12 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (not restricting a freedom, but punishing those who abuse their freedom to the detriment of others.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The cat trains you !!!


27 posted on 05/22/2009 4:14:46 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: shineon

“Which one is the dog?”

I hear you - that guy gives me the creeps.


28 posted on 05/22/2009 4:16:16 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: JoeProBono

I use Cesar Milan techniques on both my dogs and it works amazingly well. They are the best behaved dogs I have ever had.


29 posted on 05/22/2009 4:16:54 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: al baby

30 posted on 05/22/2009 4:17:24 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Training your dog is a very time and labor intensive task. You can’t just imitate the Dog Whisperer.

I spent hundreds of hours training my German Shepherd for Schutzhund trials. It requires concentration and repetition.

Anyone who thinks they have “trained” their pooch because it does games is deluding themselves.


31 posted on 05/22/2009 4:18:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: yazoo

32 posted on 05/22/2009 4:18:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

They ought to put your advice on a card and hand it out to new puppy owners. Good summary.


33 posted on 05/22/2009 4:19:15 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

>>1) Always be kind but consistently firm
2) Think like a dog not like a people
3) Reward good behavior infrequently and lavishly, and bad behavior never
4) Feed your dog good dog food always, lots of clean cold water always
5) Lots of exercise: particularly stuff that makes your dog mentally exhausted

It really is that simple.<<

That might get you an affectionate dog but not a trained one.


34 posted on 05/22/2009 4:19:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: JoeProBono
That's so cute.

I confess that my dogs are not as well behaved as I would like.

35 posted on 05/22/2009 4:20:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SkyDancer

Lovely girl.


36 posted on 05/22/2009 4:21:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“But can he train cats”?

Never mind mere training cats, can he herd cats?

;-)


37 posted on 05/22/2009 4:21:23 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Excellent advice!


38 posted on 05/22/2009 4:22:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JoeProBono

Imho, the man is a genius at training dogs.


39 posted on 05/22/2009 4:23:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JoeProBono
Trying to make your dog less aggressive by showing them you are the boss is a waste of time, researchers in a new British study say, especially when using popular new training techniques that urge owners to use physical force to make their dogs more compliant.

No, to the contrary. I have found that a properly applied two-by-four upside the head makes a permanent change in attitude and demeanor.

40 posted on 05/22/2009 4:24:31 PM PDT by Gaffer
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