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Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups
May 16,2009 | swampsniper

Posted on 05/16/2009 8:29:14 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups - Revised Janja Lalich, Ph.D. & Michael D. Langone, Ph.D.

Concerted efforts at influence and control lie at the core of cultic groups, programs, and relationships. Many members, former members, and supporters of cults are not fully aware of the extent to which members may have been manipulated, exploited, even abused. The following list of social-structural, social-psychological, and interpersonal behavioral patterns commonly found in cultic environments may be helpful in assessing a particular group or relationship.

Compare these patterns to the situation you were in (or in which you, a family member, or friend is currently involved). This list may help you determine if there is cause for concern. Bear in mind that this list is not meant to be a “cult scale” or a definitive checklist to determine if a specific group is a cult. This is not so much a diagnostic instrument as it is an analytical tool.

‪ The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

‪ Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

‪ Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).

‪ The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).

‪ The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

‪ The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

‪ The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).

‪ The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

‪ The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

‪ Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

‪ The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.

‪ The group is preoccupied with making money.

‪ Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.

‪ Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

‪ The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cult; trait
This seems to come awfully close to defining the socialist democrat party.
1 posted on 05/16/2009 8:29:15 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That’s what I was thinking — sounds like Obama Same-Thinkers..


2 posted on 05/16/2009 8:32:56 AM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Awfully close, heck — it is a dead-on match.

The democratic party hits every single bullet item dead on the head.


3 posted on 05/16/2009 8:38:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

Maybe we should start pointing this out every chance we get.


4 posted on 05/16/2009 8:39:37 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

"Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s)."

Like shouting "Yes we can!" over and over and over again?
And repeating the mantra "Change We Can Believe in!" over and over again.

"Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished." ‪

5 posted on 05/16/2009 8:44:26 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I used to know some moonies who were “ordered” to get married to one another. They didn’t choose one another beforehand (didn’t know each other) but they got married, as ordered, in one of those mass ceremonies.

That, by itself, wasn’t so spectacular, as I had heard about those before, but what was interesting is that I met the guy at one of the local politician’s offices (one that I was volunteering to help). It was a local Republican and the moonie was helping with the campaign, too.

I even got sent to Miami for one of those big Moonie political conventions, and saw Fawn Hall and Lt. Colonel Oliver North. The moonies paid all expenses for the trip there and back again.

The moonies were sponsoring these political events for conservatives, at a rate of about 1/2 million in expenses per convention, all over the country. There were usually one or two a month, at that time.

And in another political event (a fundraiser for that local Republican), Lt. Colonel Oliver North was one of the featured speakers ($1,000 a plate dinner), and that particular Moonie political operative arranged for me to be there and meet (otherwise, I wouldn’t have been able to afford the $1,000... LOL...).


6 posted on 05/16/2009 8:48:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

"The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself,
its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered
the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or
the leader is on a special mission to save humanity). "


7 posted on 05/16/2009 8:55:58 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8510

*****Cult Leaders Make Lousy Presidents******

When Obamanutz comes out in July, there will be a lot of info about cults including Lalich’s work.


8 posted on 05/16/2009 8:56:52 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

*sticks fingers in ears* O-ba-ma! *hip swivel* O-ba-ma! *hip swivel* O-ba-ma!

9 posted on 05/16/2009 8:57:44 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Spock didn't need a teleprompter)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Send the report to Janet Nepolitano to distribute to domestic law enforcement:

BOTLO for 'rats. They are dangerous.

10 posted on 05/16/2009 9:24:42 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: metmom; GodGunsGuts; MrB; Fichori; CottShop; valkyry1; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; editor-surveyor

Hmmmmmmm.....


11 posted on 05/16/2009 9:54:19 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Obamamaniacs please stand up


12 posted on 05/16/2009 9:56:19 AM PDT by the long march
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
"such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues,"

As a Byzantine Catholic, I meditate frequently. Our Sunday Liturgy is a chanted dialogue between the priest and the people. I have also been known to pray in tongues, and I am NOT a cultist.

These practices are just different enough from most common behaviors to cause suspicion, but the fact is that they are all legitimate Christian religious practices. Lumping those Christians among us who practice these things in our worship into your list of identifying characteristics of cultists does us a disservice.

13 posted on 05/16/2009 10:01:38 AM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

An important, sometimes ignored element of cults that should be taken into consideration are things the cult does precisely because the cult membership *wants* it done that way.

That is, many cults would be much more mainstream, if that is what their followers wanted. But their followers want much more intensity. Even mainstream religions have to deal with a few followers who want to be fanatical and obsessive with their beliefs.

Institutionally, cults then have to juggle attracting new members versus satisfying existing members. Increasing control and introducing new ideas has to be done gradually to insure that new members become emotionally invested and not overwhelmed by new demands.

Cults then face an interesting crossroads. Either they keep radicalizing, and burn out; or they try to stabilize their beliefs, and risk schism from disappointed radicals.


14 posted on 05/16/2009 10:06:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: redhead
Actually, NOWHERE did I "lump" Christians in this in any post. Those words cited are not mine but from the article. It seems to be saying that these can be part of cults designed to control and manipulate people. Christian meditative prayer and the Hesychast tradition (Greek ἡσυχασμός hesychasmos, from ἡσυχία hesychia, "stillness, rest, quiet, silence")are very different from what the authors are talking about - like nonsense mantras in non-Christian Eastern mysticism used as hypnotic devices in actual cults.

Unfortunately, the phenomenon of "speaking in tongues" is not always genuine and there are heretical groups, such as the modern charismatics, that exploit that. So not all groups claiming to be Christian are entirely without questionable cult practices, just as a matter of historical record. But I am a Catholic Christian so if you took offense or thought the quoted passages from the article applied to you that was not my intention. Whether the authors adhere to such opinions, I don't know. We have enough problems with the Obama cult which was the focus of my post. It's terrible how they are using Notre Dame to further the Obama cult.

Notre Dame's Kabuki Dance with Obama and the Culture of Death

15 posted on 05/16/2009 10:21:01 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: tpanther; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law. ‪ Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

I see your point....

16 posted on 05/16/2009 10:36:06 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Points well taken. No attribution was given for the article. It’s easy to misunderstand things like tongues etc., and the presumption is nearly always that “different” equals “bad.” I hope you will forgive me for being a bit sensitive about these things, but my experience has always been that because I participate in them, I am crazy or worse. I hope you understand.


17 posted on 05/16/2009 11:11:58 AM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain)
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To: redhead
Chanting at Mass involves singing the lyrics of hymns or responses in the liturgy. The kind of hypnotic mantra chanting in cults is more repetitive and may be designed to control and manipulate people, programming the subconscious. The mantras Obama used during the campaign are similar. A person who joins a cult is usually already in a disturbed state. Unfortunately, it is possible for traditional religious groups, which may claim to be Christian, to introduce and use cult techniques. It depends on how authoritarian, how much control, and what kind of people serve as the leaders. Tithing can be abusive. So can shaming and scolding or long-winded harangues. Televangelist cults which focus too much on money or where the leader is in it for profit. It depends on the people.
18 posted on 05/16/2009 11:20:04 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: tpanther

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 05/16/2009 9:07:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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